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No, I'm just saying the analogy isn't apt. But on the broader argument, saying people just don't like it because it puts them out of jobs also seems to miss th

No, I'm just saying the analogy isn't apt. But on the broader argument, saying people just don't like it because it puts them out of jobs also seems to miss the point. Disruptive technologies of the kind that "put people put out of jobs" usually just replace labour, ie. mechanised looms, calculators and computers, rather than replacing the result of one's labour. Often this is a distinction without any meaningful difference, but when we're talking about art and creative work products I think it's significant.

Pet_Ant 2y ago
I mean last year our town lost it's last custom suit tailor to retirement. In a Peruvian town I saw a cobbler making shoes by hand, cutting soles from foot tracings. Custom suits and shoes have been greatly impacted by factories pumping them out. Now, you may not respect the sartorial arts (and frankly neither do I really), but to those that do something really meaningful was lost there. Perhaps, many will go out of business, but some few will remain like forementioned tailor and cobbler. That's always been okay before. And Frankly, the best art has always been created by people who couldn't afford to do it full time. Art will not suffer.
- colonelspace 2y ago
  > And Frankly, the best art has always been created by people who couldn't afford to do it full time. Art will not suffer. That's quite the claim. I'm not sure there's a consistent correlation between "best art" and ability to do it full-time, but there certainly is a long tradition of artists and apprentices who did indeed make art their entire lives.
bb88 2y ago
I don't buy your argument that the artistic jobs are any more special than any other job impacted by AI. Writers, software engineers, truck drivers, managers, etc. People already buy cheap/shitty art to hang on the walls from Wal-Mart, Target, etc. Artists already lost that market 5 maybe 6 decades ago.

Pet_Ant 2y ago

I mean last year our town lost it's last custom suit tailor to retirement. In a Peruvian town I saw a cobbler making shoes by hand, cutting soles from foot tracings. Custom suits and shoes have been greatly impacted by factories pumping them out. Now, you may not respect the sartorial arts (and frankly neither do I really), but to those that do something really meaningful was lost there. Perhaps, many will go out of business, but some few will remain like forementioned tailor and cobbler. That's always been okay before. And Frankly, the best art has always been created by people who couldn't afford to do it full time. Art will not suffer.

colonelspace 2y ago
> And Frankly, the best art has always been created by people who couldn't afford to do it full time. Art will not suffer. That's quite the claim. I'm not sure there's a consistent correlation between "best art" and ability to do it full-time, but there certainly is a long tradition of artists and apprentices who did indeed make art their entire lives.

bb88 2y ago

I don't buy your argument that the artistic jobs are any more special than any other job impacted by AI. Writers, software engineers, truck drivers, managers, etc. People already buy cheap/shitty art to hang on the walls from Wal-Mart, Target, etc. Artists already lost that market 5 maybe 6 decades ago.