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If there is a such a breakthrough then the hackers or even spy agencies will not reveal it. They will instead silently make use of it. It will be essentially a

If there is a such a breakthrough then the hackers or even spy agencies will not reveal it. They will instead silently make use of it. It will be essentially a backdoor for them.

heyoni 2y ago
Wouldn’t it likely originate from academia? If so you can bet that the work will be published just like this one.
- Retr0id 2y ago
  It's hard to know where things are today, but historically, public academia has often been behind the true cutting edge of cryptanalysis. For example, take a look at the history of Differential Cryptanalysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_cryptanalysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_cryptanalysis > The discovery of differential cryptanalysis is generally attributed to Eli Biham and Adi Shamir in the late 1980s, who published a number of attacks against various block ciphers and hash functions, including a theoretical weakness in the Data Encryption Standard (DES). It was noted by Biham and Shamir that DES was surprisingly resistant to differential cryptanalysis, but small modifications to the algorithm would make it much more susceptible. > In 1994, a member of the original IBM DES team, Don Coppersmith, published a paper stating that differential cryptanalysis was known to IBM as early as 1974, and that defending against differential cryptanalysis had been a design goal. According to author Steven Levy, IBM had discovered differential cryptanalysis on its own, and the NSA was apparently well aware of the technique.
  - heyoni 2y ago
    That is both impressive and disappointing. I'm so used to seeing large corporations publishing AI models and other techniques (like Ghidra) that I assumed a finding like that would be disseminated to the public. But you're right, something that could be used to decrypt modern ciphers could very well be kept secret for as long as possible.
    - Retr0id 2y ago
      Ghidra was private for many years before it was public (I don't know precisely how many, I suppose that information is also private heh) Edit: Wikipedia mentions 1999, with v1.0 existing in 2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghidra#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghidra#History
Retr0id 2y ago
It depends on who makes the breakthrough.
EvanAnderson 2y ago
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If there is a such a breakthrough then the hackers or even spy agencies will not reveal it. They will instead silently make use of it. It will be essentially a backdoor for them.

heyoni 2y ago

Wouldn’t it likely originate from academia? If so you can bet that the work will be published just like this one.

Retr0id 2y ago
It's hard to know where things are today, but historically, public academia has often been behind the true cutting edge of cryptanalysis. For example, take a look at the history of Differential Cryptanalysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_cryptanalysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_cryptanalysis > The discovery of differential cryptanalysis is generally attributed to Eli Biham and Adi Shamir in the late 1980s, who published a number of attacks against various block ciphers and hash functions, including a theoretical weakness in the Data Encryption Standard (DES). It was noted by Biham and Shamir that DES was surprisingly resistant to differential cryptanalysis, but small modifications to the algorithm would make it much more susceptible. > In 1994, a member of the original IBM DES team, Don Coppersmith, published a paper stating that differential cryptanalysis was known to IBM as early as 1974, and that defending against differential cryptanalysis had been a design goal. According to author Steven Levy, IBM had discovered differential cryptanalysis on its own, and the NSA was apparently well aware of the technique.
- heyoni 2y ago
  That is both impressive and disappointing. I'm so used to seeing large corporations publishing AI models and other techniques (like Ghidra) that I assumed a finding like that would be disseminated to the public. But you're right, something that could be used to decrypt modern ciphers could very well be kept secret for as long as possible.
  - Retr0id 2y ago
    Ghidra was private for many years before it was public (I don't know precisely how many, I suppose that information is also private heh) Edit: Wikipedia mentions 1999, with v1.0 existing in 2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghidra#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghidra#History

Retr0id 2y ago

It depends on who makes the breakthrough.

EvanAnderson 2y ago

SETEC ASTRONOMY