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Imagine a car having say 300 to 400 miles of range and having a battery that's roughly half the weight of today's batteries and "fully" charges in 10 minutes. T

Imagine a car having say 300 to 400 miles of range and having a battery that's roughly half the weight of today's batteries and "fully" charges in 10 minutes. That would be awesome! The real exciting thing is this is one of several new battery technologies being prototyped. The next 5-7 years are going to be exciting for EVs.

tryptophan 2y ago
Yeah incredible. EVs are a bit questionable at the moment but I have no doubt that in 5 years they will just be straight up better than gas cars in every way. Concerning part is that China has a massive lead in this industry, and the lone American company that can compete is being targeted by the petty regime we have in power.
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- steego 2y ago
  You’re being vague. Are you saying Tesla is being targeted with this administration’s EV mandates? Or have they been targeted with subsidies? Better yet, what policies do you think we should be pushing?
- itishappy 2y ago
  > the lone American company that can compete is being targeted by the petty regime we have in power Are you suggesting that Tesla is struggling to compete because our government is targeting them more than, say, BYD?
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  Half of Tesla’s income is tax credits[0]. What more is the government supposed to do? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41050278 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41050278
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- taylodl 2y ago
  How is Tesla being targeted by Congress or by this Administration? I'm honestly not aware of anything nefarious going on. Isn't Tesla being helped by the 100% tariff this Administration has placed on BYD imports?
lm28469 2y ago
The average is something like 30km per day, if people aren't convinced by the current offering it isn't because of range or charging time, price is a much bigger barrier
- pants2 2y ago
  The average is irrelevant, look at the maximum. If you own one car it needs to work well for all of your car needs, including visiting your mountain cabin, driving to see your family in another state every couple months, road trips etc. Range and charging time was the biggest barrier for me in buying an electric car because I need to drive 350 miles every month or so, and don't want to stop at a crowded charging station for an hour 1-2 times on the drive. The second barrier is I know that battery tech is rapidly getting better, which means an electric car today will rapidly devalue, and I'll have a much better experience buying one in 5-10 years when the self-driving features are really honed in.
  - lm28469 2y ago
    I don't own a car, when I need one I rent one, it costs like 30 euros per day for a brand new VW. Most people just want a shitbox to go from A to B, which is exactly why EVs aren't selling now that all the fanboys signed in for the beta test. The only reason they're not selling is price > in 5-10 years when the self-driving features are really honed in. Ah yes, Elon said it'll be there next year every year since 2012 and people still believe in this pipe dream... incredible
  - taylodl 2y ago
    > The second barrier is I know that battery tech is rapidly getting better, which means an electric car today will rapidly devalue It's like PCs in the 1990s. There were big advances in processing power, memory, and storage every 2-3 years so you didn't want to lock yourself in with something too crazy. Cars are something I buy every 10-15 years, so I have to wait for things to settle a bit before I'll be willing to buy. I think there's going to be a seismic shift in the market in 5-7 years. It has to be really hard being an automaker right now. You need a lot of capital, which isn't cheap at the moment, to expand your capabilities into EV production whose sales may not take off for another few years. But you can't ignore the EV market altogether or you risk getting left behind. Crazy market!
kasabali 2y ago
We have those, they're called gas tanks
- manchmalscott 2y ago
  A gas tank can’t be charged with renewable energy and you know that
  - codersfocus 2y ago
    Biofuels are a thing
    - zardo 2y ago
      You'll have an easier time finding a charging station than B/E100.
    - kasabali 2y ago
      Sir, please kindly toe the party line. Mining lithium and cobalt good. Farming sugar cane bad. Battery good, ICE bad.

tryptophan 2y ago

Yeah incredible. EVs are a bit questionable at the moment but I have no doubt that in 5 years they will just be straight up better than gas cars in every way. Concerning part is that China has a massive lead in this industry, and the lone American company that can compete is being targeted by the petty regime we have in power.

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steego 2y ago
You’re being vague. Are you saying Tesla is being targeted with this administration’s EV mandates? Or have they been targeted with subsidies? Better yet, what policies do you think we should be pushing?
itishappy 2y ago
> the lone American company that can compete is being targeted by the petty regime we have in power Are you suggesting that Tesla is struggling to compete because our government is targeting them more than, say, BYD?
0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
Half of Tesla’s income is tax credits[0]. What more is the government supposed to do? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41050278 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41050278
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taylodl 2y ago
How is Tesla being targeted by Congress or by this Administration? I'm honestly not aware of anything nefarious going on. Isn't Tesla being helped by the 100% tariff this Administration has placed on BYD imports?

lm28469 2y ago

The average is something like 30km per day, if people aren't convinced by the current offering it isn't because of range or charging time, price is a much bigger barrier

pants2 2y ago
The average is irrelevant, look at the maximum. If you own one car it needs to work well for all of your car needs, including visiting your mountain cabin, driving to see your family in another state every couple months, road trips etc. Range and charging time was the biggest barrier for me in buying an electric car because I need to drive 350 miles every month or so, and don't want to stop at a crowded charging station for an hour 1-2 times on the drive. The second barrier is I know that battery tech is rapidly getting better, which means an electric car today will rapidly devalue, and I'll have a much better experience buying one in 5-10 years when the self-driving features are really honed in.
- lm28469 2y ago
  I don't own a car, when I need one I rent one, it costs like 30 euros per day for a brand new VW. Most people just want a shitbox to go from A to B, which is exactly why EVs aren't selling now that all the fanboys signed in for the beta test. The only reason they're not selling is price > in 5-10 years when the self-driving features are really honed in. Ah yes, Elon said it'll be there next year every year since 2012 and people still believe in this pipe dream... incredible
- taylodl 2y ago
  > The second barrier is I know that battery tech is rapidly getting better, which means an electric car today will rapidly devalue It's like PCs in the 1990s. There were big advances in processing power, memory, and storage every 2-3 years so you didn't want to lock yourself in with something too crazy. Cars are something I buy every 10-15 years, so I have to wait for things to settle a bit before I'll be willing to buy. I think there's going to be a seismic shift in the market in 5-7 years. It has to be really hard being an automaker right now. You need a lot of capital, which isn't cheap at the moment, to expand your capabilities into EV production whose sales may not take off for another few years. But you can't ignore the EV market altogether or you risk getting left behind. Crazy market!

kasabali 2y ago

We have those, they're called gas tanks

manchmalscott 2y ago
A gas tank can’t be charged with renewable energy and you know that
- codersfocus 2y ago
  Biofuels are a thing
  - zardo 2y ago
    You'll have an easier time finding a charging station than B/E100.
  - kasabali 2y ago
    Sir, please kindly toe the party line. Mining lithium and cobalt good. Farming sugar cane bad. Battery good, ICE bad.