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The idea that you can insert words like "Doors" and hope it uses but not knowingly bits from "The Doors" is pretty much the opposite of a figleaf. People often

by ksaj 2y ago

The idea that you can insert words like "Doors" and hope it uses but not knowingly bits from "The Doors" is pretty much the opposite of a figleaf. People often put things like that in their prompts, and confirmation bias tells them it worked when they run it a few times and get something that sounds like The Doors, even though the meaningless bit of prompt you gave it was simply ignored. The similarity is because of your words and description of the style. Period. Writing "Yngwie" in the prompt will get you arpeggios, but they sound nothing like him. Just as another example. Because the prompt is giving the AI genre cues only, and nothing so specific as actual Yngwie arpeggios, scales and ladder riffs.

Nursie 2y ago
Not convinced, sorry. The “figleaf” is the service saying “Oh we can’t use artists in prompts, here, let me use a prompt that looks suspiciously like a set of tags from a specific music site instead” nod wink. And then the underlying model quite often fills in a well known voice and style. And that’s if the service spots the artist was in there and substitutes anyway, which it doesn’t always. So regardless, prompts may or may not be giving detailed Yngwie arpeggios to the model, but the model is clearly trained on them and can reproduce eerily similar music and voices to any given artist when given the right triggers. It’s (IMHO) clearly plagiarism on a massive scale. Great fun to play with though. (To be crystal clear, my contention is not “they are doing some dodgy prompt stuff to make their model produce known artists”, it is that their model is very good at spitting out massively ripped-off voices and styles. It is their attempts to cover this with “we don’t allow you to specify an artist!” that are the figleaf over the nature of the model)

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The idea that you can insert words like "Doors" and hope it uses but not knowingly bits from "The Doors" is pretty much the opposite of a figleaf. People often

by ksaj 2y ago

Nursie 2y ago
Not convinced, sorry. The “figleaf” is the service saying “Oh we can’t use artists in prompts, here, let me use a prompt that looks suspiciously like a set of tags from a specific music site instead” nod wink. And then the underlying model quite often fills in a well known voice and style. And that’s if the service spots the artist was in there and substitutes anyway, which it doesn’t always. So regardless, prompts may or may not be giving detailed Yngwie arpeggios to the model, but the model is clearly trained on them and can reproduce eerily similar music and voices to any given artist when given the right triggers. It’s (IMHO) clearly plagiarism on a massive scale. Great fun to play with though. (To be crystal clear, my contention is not “they are doing some dodgy prompt stuff to make their model produce known artists”, it is that their model is very good at spitting out massively ripped-off voices and styles. It is their attempts to cover this with “we don’t allow you to specify an artist!” that are the figleaf over the nature of the model)