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Sincerely, everyone in my real life I know bemoans AI hype. The only really love it has is in memes (things like voice swaping, singing politicians, things like

Sincerely, everyone in my real life I know bemoans AI hype. The only really love it has is in memes (things like voice swaping, singing politicians, things like that). I'm surprised people on HN have no exposure to such people.

emseetech 2y ago
I bemoan AI but it's been disheartening as the hype spreads everywhere. It feels like everyone is building an AI startup. Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't feel like we're done building the boring stuff yet.
- mdm12 2y ago
  We're not done building the boring stuff or solving the hard problems either. One is, well, boring and the other is...hard. Easy enough to proxy out prompts to OpenAI for your next funding round, though.
edanm 2y ago
How many people in your life "hate AI" but love that feature in Google Photos that lets you search your photos by a person's name? People don't generally like or dislike the combustion engine. They like the ability to get from place to place faster.
- temac 2y ago
  Probably when writing "hate AI" here the meaning was hate the often useless text chat bot. Google Photo face recognition was there before the new hipe and is probably not designated talked by primarily as "AI" by the general public.
  - YeahThisIsMe 2y ago
    People also like privacy, and most of the time "AI" means "your stuff is going to our servers". I don't need or want that from most applications, especially a photo viewer.
    - benterix 2y ago
      > most of the time "AI" means "your stuff is going to our servers". It almost always does but only because it is offered this way, it is not a hard technical requirement. There is nothing that would prevent offering a standalone version running locally for customers with their hardware powerful enough.
    - xboxnolifes 2y ago
      Most everyone I know in real life do not care about that kind of privacy. They happily upload anything to anywhere on the internet. The people who do care tend to fall in one of two categories: More tech inclined (programmers), or the same kind of person who doesn't use online banking because they are afraid of losing their money.
  - paulmd 2y ago
    Yes, but it is. It’s a well-known problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect Again, you’ve gotta remember that originally, playing chess was considered an unfathomable expression of machine thinking. Now it’s a problem trivially solved in CS112 class. It’s a lot less magic when you see behind the curtain.
- navjack27 2y ago
  It was never AI as people are using it today. Back in 2014 2015 2016 or whatever it was just facial recognition. In fact there's nothing smart about it. It detects the face and then you put a name to the face. It does nothing else.
  - ben_w 2y ago
    I'm old enough to remember when the ability for machines to recognise faces was in the same category as flying cars: tech demos in the news, but you couldn't use them in any practical sense.
  - edanm 2y ago
    A constant theme in AI is that as soon as something is achieved, it becomes "no longer AI", just tech. That's kind of my point. Nobody cares what you call it or how it works, they care about the actual value they get out of the feature. Also, back in 2014, it wasn't "just" facial recognition. It was the dawn of the new age of Deep Learning, bringing capabilities that had never existed before.
- iainctduncan 2y ago
  Sure, but what car maker is yelling "Combustion engine in here, it's SO AMAZING!" - and would you trust one who is?
  - maximilianthe1 2y ago
    Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk has a combustion engine, it's SO AMAZING!
  - tim333 2y ago
    A lot of the ones with amazing combustion engines are a bit pricey. The Koenigsegg Gemera engine is cool.
- jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
  > love that feature in Google Photos that lets you search your photos by a person's name? Is that even considered AI by the hype/marketing machine? It's been around longer than these new language models.
  - paulmd 2y ago
    AI is more than these new language models.

emseetech 2y ago

I bemoan AI but it's been disheartening as the hype spreads everywhere. It feels like everyone is building an AI startup. Maybe I'm naive, but it doesn't feel like we're done building the boring stuff yet.

mdm12 2y ago
We're not done building the boring stuff or solving the hard problems either. One is, well, boring and the other is...hard. Easy enough to proxy out prompts to OpenAI for your next funding round, though.

edanm 2y ago

How many people in your life "hate AI" but love that feature in Google Photos that lets you search your photos by a person's name? People don't generally like or dislike the combustion engine. They like the ability to get from place to place faster.

temac 2y ago
Probably when writing "hate AI" here the meaning was hate the often useless text chat bot. Google Photo face recognition was there before the new hipe and is probably not designated talked by primarily as "AI" by the general public.
- YeahThisIsMe 2y ago
  People also like privacy, and most of the time "AI" means "your stuff is going to our servers". I don't need or want that from most applications, especially a photo viewer.
  - benterix 2y ago
    > most of the time "AI" means "your stuff is going to our servers". It almost always does but only because it is offered this way, it is not a hard technical requirement. There is nothing that would prevent offering a standalone version running locally for customers with their hardware powerful enough.
  - xboxnolifes 2y ago
    Most everyone I know in real life do not care about that kind of privacy. They happily upload anything to anywhere on the internet. The people who do care tend to fall in one of two categories: More tech inclined (programmers), or the same kind of person who doesn't use online banking because they are afraid of losing their money.
- paulmd 2y ago
  Yes, but it is. It’s a well-known problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect Again, you’ve gotta remember that originally, playing chess was considered an unfathomable expression of machine thinking. Now it’s a problem trivially solved in CS112 class. It’s a lot less magic when you see behind the curtain.
navjack27 2y ago
It was never AI as people are using it today. Back in 2014 2015 2016 or whatever it was just facial recognition. In fact there's nothing smart about it. It detects the face and then you put a name to the face. It does nothing else.
- ben_w 2y ago
  I'm old enough to remember when the ability for machines to recognise faces was in the same category as flying cars: tech demos in the news, but you couldn't use them in any practical sense.
- edanm 2y ago
  A constant theme in AI is that as soon as something is achieved, it becomes "no longer AI", just tech. That's kind of my point. Nobody cares what you call it or how it works, they care about the actual value they get out of the feature. Also, back in 2014, it wasn't "just" facial recognition. It was the dawn of the new age of Deep Learning, bringing capabilities that had never existed before.
iainctduncan 2y ago
Sure, but what car maker is yelling "Combustion engine in here, it's SO AMAZING!" - and would you trust one who is?
- maximilianthe1 2y ago
  Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk has a combustion engine, it's SO AMAZING!
- tim333 2y ago
  A lot of the ones with amazing combustion engines are a bit pricey. The Koenigsegg Gemera engine is cool.
jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
> love that feature in Google Photos that lets you search your photos by a person's name? Is that even considered AI by the hype/marketing machine? It's been around longer than these new language models.
- paulmd 2y ago
  AI is more than these new language models.