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There is also hamnet, which is partly internet routable and partly not on the 44Net IP block. https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi It has

There is also hamnet, which is partly internet routable and partly not on the 44Net IP block. https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi It has interesting limitations due to the amateur radio spectrum used. Including total ban commercial use. As that is the social contract of the spectrum, you get cheap access to loads of spectrum between 136kHz and 241GHz, but can't make money with it.

wkat4242 2y ago
Yeah it's really hard to get an uplink to it though. Even in a big city. Only in the Netherlands and Germany is it really widespread: https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi . Here in Spain it's not available anywhere near me.
- withinboredom 2y ago
  With hamm radio, it doesn't need to be near IIRC. It's been a long af time since I've messed about with radio, but pretty sure you'd be able to use the ionosphere as an antenna.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    For this it does need to be near. These are all high-speed connections that need line of sight. Basically those microwave dishes that you see everywhere. Or at least a grid reflector or yagi or something. With HF yes you can use the various atmospheric layers to reflect depending on band but in those bands the available bandwidth is extremely low (the entire HF range itself is only 30mhz and the amateurs only have a few small slices of that). The only practical digital operations there are Morse, RTTY (basically telex) and some obscure extremely-slow GPS synced data modes like WISPR and FT8 that are basically for distance bragging rights but don't transmit useful payload. So in effect, no. In this case line of sight or at least short distances (VHF/UHF) are required. Also, I don't have space for huge antennas that HF requires as I'm in a small apartment in the middle of a built-up city.

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There is also hamnet, which is partly internet routable and partly not on the 44Net IP block. https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi It has

by RF_Savage 2y ago

wkat4242 2y ago
Yeah it's really hard to get an uplink to it though. Even in a big city. Only in the Netherlands and Germany is it really widespread: https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi https://hamnetdb.net/map.cgi . Here in Spain it's not available anywhere near me.
- withinboredom 2y ago
  With hamm radio, it doesn't need to be near IIRC. It's been a long af time since I've messed about with radio, but pretty sure you'd be able to use the ionosphere as an antenna.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    For this it does need to be near. These are all high-speed connections that need line of sight. Basically those microwave dishes that you see everywhere. Or at least a grid reflector or yagi or something. With HF yes you can use the various atmospheric layers to reflect depending on band but in those bands the available bandwidth is extremely low (the entire HF range itself is only 30mhz and the amateurs only have a few small slices of that). The only practical digital operations there are Morse, RTTY (basically telex) and some obscure extremely-slow GPS synced data modes like WISPR and FT8 that are basically for distance bragging rights but don't transmit useful payload. So in effect, no. In this case line of sight or at least short distances (VHF/UHF) are required. Also, I don't have space for huge antennas that HF requires as I'm in a small apartment in the middle of a built-up city.