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As the owner of two pit mixes, I'm biased, but I acknowledge statistics, and recognize that mine may be atypically gentle. The issue of course is a lot of BSL i

As the owner of two pit mixes, I'm biased, but I acknowledge statistics, and recognize that mine may be atypically gentle. The issue of course is a lot of BSL is too wide in scope. There's a big difference between a 70 pound Staffy and a 35 pound APBT-lab mix, and that's not just limited to size and strength.

eldaisfish 2y ago
dog genetics are probabilities. Your dogs are likely able to suppress their instinct but find the right trigger and your dogs are very likely to be ripping out an animal’s throat, including a human’s. BSL works because it is also based on probabilities, specifically the probability that a group of closely related dog breeds are all likely to exhibit the same behaviour. The problem with pit bull type dogs is the breeding that makes them attack a target’s most sensitive region - the neck. Better to have all related breeds removed that run the risk of yet another child dying because someone could not be arsed to contrôle their dog.
- RajT88 2y ago
  Can confirm. My dog is the sweetest thing (a mutt, mostly Australian shepherd) but she is ready to murder when she sees a possum or raccoon. A threatening person I have little doubt she would have a go at.
  - bdcravens 2y ago
    Dachshunds are the same way, as they are bred to be hunters.
- hw-guy 2y ago
  I agree. Pitbulls should be regarded as a public health threat like smallpox or the aedes aegypti mosquito, and eradicated.
- bdcravens 2y ago
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  - Gud 2y ago
    No.
hw-guy 2y ago
People love to describe their pitbulls as "gentle" and "loving" until they rip the baby's face off.
- bdcravens 2y ago
  Ditto for German Shepherds and Dachshunds (I have 3 dogs; the one in addition to the 2 pits is a Dachshund, and he's bitten pretty much everyone he's gotten close enough to)
  - andrewinardeer 2y ago
    Those crazy Germans!
  - andrewla 2y ago
    There is a categorical difference between the two. While dachsunds may have a propensity for violence, it is verging on comical to compare them to a German Shepherd, just because of the comparative physical capability of the dogs. A dachsund could get it in its head to attack me for days and I would never require anything more than a bandaid, while a German Shepherd could seriously injure me even were I trying to defend myself. As I've said elsewhere on this thread, the first-order consideration for breeds is just the physical capability; temperament and training are second-order considerations that may mitigate some of the capabilities, but rarely will increase the danger of a breed.
    - ifyoubuildit 2y ago
      > A dachsund could get it in its head to attack me for days and I would never require anything more than a bandaid Wot? Here's a quick google result to the contrary: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/sausage-dog-attack-dachshund-pet-b2533173.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families...
    - bdcravens 2y ago
      You might not die, but a Dachshund's bite can require stitches. They can absolutely kill a small child. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/12/27/dachshund-put-to-death-after-mauling-md-baby/d05a3d2a-f857-4c1a-8f6e-c0156477c548/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/12/27/dach...

eldaisfish 2y ago

dog genetics are probabilities. Your dogs are likely able to suppress their instinct but find the right trigger and your dogs are very likely to be ripping out an animal’s throat, including a human’s. BSL works because it is also based on probabilities, specifically the probability that a group of closely related dog breeds are all likely to exhibit the same behaviour. The problem with pit bull type dogs is the breeding that makes them attack a target’s most sensitive region - the neck. Better to have all related breeds removed that run the risk of yet another child dying because someone could not be arsed to contrôle their dog.

RajT88 2y ago
Can confirm. My dog is the sweetest thing (a mutt, mostly Australian shepherd) but she is ready to murder when she sees a possum or raccoon. A threatening person I have little doubt she would have a go at.
- bdcravens 2y ago
  Dachshunds are the same way, as they are bred to be hunters.
hw-guy 2y ago
I agree. Pitbulls should be regarded as a public health threat like smallpox or the aedes aegypti mosquito, and eradicated.
bdcravens 2y ago
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- Gud 2y ago
  No.

hw-guy 2y ago

People love to describe their pitbulls as "gentle" and "loving" until they rip the baby's face off.

bdcravens 2y ago
Ditto for German Shepherds and Dachshunds (I have 3 dogs; the one in addition to the 2 pits is a Dachshund, and he's bitten pretty much everyone he's gotten close enough to)
- andrewinardeer 2y ago
  Those crazy Germans!
- andrewla 2y ago
  There is a categorical difference between the two. While dachsunds may have a propensity for violence, it is verging on comical to compare them to a German Shepherd, just because of the comparative physical capability of the dogs. A dachsund could get it in its head to attack me for days and I would never require anything more than a bandaid, while a German Shepherd could seriously injure me even were I trying to defend myself. As I've said elsewhere on this thread, the first-order consideration for breeds is just the physical capability; temperament and training are second-order considerations that may mitigate some of the capabilities, but rarely will increase the danger of a breed.
  - ifyoubuildit 2y ago
    > A dachsund could get it in its head to attack me for days and I would never require anything more than a bandaid Wot? Here's a quick google result to the contrary: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/sausage-dog-attack-dachshund-pet-b2533173.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families...
  - bdcravens 2y ago
    You might not die, but a Dachshund's bite can require stitches. They can absolutely kill a small child. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/12/27/dachshund-put-to-death-after-mauling-md-baby/d05a3d2a-f857-4c1a-8f6e-c0156477c548/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/12/27/dach...