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I leased my 3rd Mazda in a row this past spring and you have no idea the battle I had with the salesperson over his insistence I install connected services on m

I leased my 3rd Mazda in a row this past spring and you have no idea the battle I had with the salesperson over his insistence I install connected services on my phone. Took less than a minute reading the TOS to know to stay the hell away from it and Mazda's ability to sell my data to 3rd parties. He tells me "you won't be able to remote start without it, warm your car up in the winter". He only gave up when I told him I'll just leave if forced to install. I also turned off connected services from the cars infotainment screen but I get a prompt to turn back on every time I start the car. Who knows if any of this actually makes a difference. They may still be collecting my driving data and selling it without my consent.

bluefirebrand 2y ago
> Who knows if any of this actually makes a difference. They may still be collecting my driving data and selling it without my consent One of the worst outcomes is going to be "if you don't let us collect your data then we have to set your insurance prices high because you're an unknown" I think this is pretty likely to happen. The same way if hiring managers can't find your LinkedIn or Facebook they might think that's suspicious behavior instead of just privacy conscious
- hnpolicestate 2y ago
  Yes. But I think they dislike both for different reasons. Suspicious employees/customers and privacy conscious employees/customers. The former is understandable but the latter presents a risk because it's harder to fully know a closed book, harder to exploit a closed book. What's he/she thinking? It's sad having to treat every institution one deals with on a day to day basis as an adversary by default, but I think we have enough evidence to justify it.