> It's really hard to fit that into our expectations about the world, where the truth can be known. This is the sort of statement I expect from philosophers a

> It's really hard to fit that into our expectations about the world, where the truth can be known. This is the sort of statement I expect from philosophers and not scientists. That may be your expectation, but it's not mine. I believe (with a high degree of confidence) that the best we ever have is a Bayesian confidence in any hypothesis. > The idea of an untestable truth is upsetting. I think there's a big leap between "We can't test it" and "It's untestable". I am not confident that humans 1000 years from now will still be bound by quantum indeterminacy. What we now model as probability fields may be in fact the result of a deterministic process which we do not yet understand.