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The idea mentioned in the article of using an advanced AI that’s as smart as a human in a giant superposition experiment is a bit funny to me. Presumably, if w

The idea mentioned in the article of using an advanced AI that’s as smart as a human in a giant superposition experiment is a bit funny to me. Presumably, if we have AGI that advanced, why not just ask it to solve the open problems involving quantum gravity, measurement, consciousness, etc. and explain the solutions in a clear and simple way. I would think that’s a much more likely outcome. I’m not even sure we need AGI for that—advanced ML combined with automated theorem proving applied to the space of physically relevant no-go theorems might lead to substantial progress on a lot of these metaphysical mysteries.

bubblyworld 2y ago
If you believe that's a plausible way of going about this, you should figure out a way to test it! I think that's the spirit of the article.
- airtonix 2y ago
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alexey-salmin 2y ago
> Presumably, if we have AGI that advanced, why not just ask it to solve the open problems involving quantum gravity, measurement, consciousness, etc. and explain the solutions in a clear and simple way. I would think that’s a much more likely outcome. You assume quite a lot here. Even if AGI is possible (I think it is) it's not clear how far above human intelligence it will actually go. Then it's not clear that problems you outline are even solvable with intelligence, not all problems are. Some are just computationally hard (and we're heavily limited by mass and energy available in the solar system) others can be unsolvable at all -- e.g. you can build a universe in a way that makes it impossible to fully study from within, and maybe ours is of that kind.
- galaxyLogic 2y ago
  You are implying the possibility that "somebody built the universe", right? Or that "We live in a simulated universe", which amounts to the same, someone or something building the simulation. While I think living in simulation, or living in a universe built by someone, is a very plausible possibility, it kind of just pushes the question of the origin of universe just a bit further. If WE live in a simulation, how did the universe of those who built our simulation come about?
eru 2y ago
You could probably do both? If there was no harm to me, I would probably volunteer to put myself into superposition.
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grantcas 2y ago
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bubblyworld 2y ago

If you believe that's a plausible way of going about this, you should figure out a way to test it! I think that's the spirit of the article.

airtonix 2y ago
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alexey-salmin 2y ago

> Presumably, if we have AGI that advanced, why not just ask it to solve the open problems involving quantum gravity, measurement, consciousness, etc. and explain the solutions in a clear and simple way. I would think that’s a much more likely outcome. You assume quite a lot here. Even if AGI is possible (I think it is) it's not clear how far above human intelligence it will actually go. Then it's not clear that problems you outline are even solvable with intelligence, not all problems are. Some are just computationally hard (and we're heavily limited by mass and energy available in the solar system) others can be unsolvable at all -- e.g. you can build a universe in a way that makes it impossible to fully study from within, and maybe ours is of that kind.

galaxyLogic 2y ago
You are implying the possibility that "somebody built the universe", right? Or that "We live in a simulated universe", which amounts to the same, someone or something building the simulation. While I think living in simulation, or living in a universe built by someone, is a very plausible possibility, it kind of just pushes the question of the origin of universe just a bit further. If WE live in a simulation, how did the universe of those who built our simulation come about?

eru 2y ago

You could probably do both? If there was no harm to me, I would probably volunteer to put myself into superposition.

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grantcas 2y ago

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