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>Those who need a car for longer distance travel should accept living further away from city center Strongly feel this acceptance will be difficult to actualiz

• XMPPwocky 2y ago
  How so? We've built huge amounts of infrastructure (parking being the obvious one) to explicitly enable people to have cars in city centers- stop doing that and my gut (scientific, I know!) says that'll get you most of the way there.
• NoGravitas 2y ago
  The least coercive way to do it is probably by making areas closer to the city center worse for driving — narrow roads, no parking, etc — and better for walking and biking. Then people will naturally sort themselves based on their preferences. The problem being that establishing the needed urban environment is itself a political struggle.
  • graemep 2y ago
    IMO the key is better public transport. I never drive to London because a train will get me there faster, and I can rely public transport to get me to almost anywhere I want to get to. It can definitely be useful to have a car in the suburbs but not enough to be worth the trouble of driving one there. The difficulty of parking and driving around the city centre is a deterrent, but to me it is secondary to the positive factors. I do like pedestrianised areas, because they feel safe and clean. The main danger remaining is the cyclists of the "get out of my say" type, especially couriers and the like.