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Fake Job Interviews Are Fraud Fraud -- ftfy we need to start prosecuting companies that do this shit, not just for financial fields.

Mountain_Skies 2y ago
Make it a criminal felony for everyone involved with fake job posts. It's wage theft of people who aren't even the company's employees. In almost all other contexts this would be criminal theft. Make it criminal theft in this context too. Once you include the hundreds or thousands of people they've stolen labor from, it easily passes any threshold required for it to be a felony. Guarantee the ghost job nonsense will instantly stop once the first person is shown being shipped off to prison for a year and one day.
- donor20 2y ago
  This might move hiring to friends / network type hiring. If you were in a good network awesome. If not could be tough
teractiveodular 2y ago
As the friendly article explains, it is next to impossible to differentiate between "fake job interview" and "unsuccessful real interview".
- Flop7331 2y ago
  In the absence of proper documentation and genuine feedback, assume it was a fake. E.g. I had a CodeSignal assessment recently that resulted in the end of my "consideration". If it had been a genuine opening, they'd be able to tell me what the expected score was and how tenured peers at the company are scoring in recent assessments.
  - teractiveodular 2y ago
    Most companies refuse to provide applicants any feedback other than yes/no, because it opens them up to lawsuits.
    - Flop7331 2y ago
      Really? Guess they'd better make sure they aren't discriminating unfairly, conducting fake interviews, or doing other things that would get them nailed by a system that exists for good reason.
      - Spooky23 2y ago
        Evidence that a test is a proxy for IQ means you’re gonna lose in court.
        tptacek 2y ago
        No it doesn't. IQ tests, even explicit ones, are broadly legal in the US.
iknownthing 2y ago
bait & switch jobs should also be fraud

Mountain_Skies 2y ago

Make it a criminal felony for everyone involved with fake job posts. It's wage theft of people who aren't even the company's employees. In almost all other contexts this would be criminal theft. Make it criminal theft in this context too. Once you include the hundreds or thousands of people they've stolen labor from, it easily passes any threshold required for it to be a felony. Guarantee the ghost job nonsense will instantly stop once the first person is shown being shipped off to prison for a year and one day.

donor20 2y ago
This might move hiring to friends / network type hiring. If you were in a good network awesome. If not could be tough

teractiveodular 2y ago

As the friendly article explains, it is next to impossible to differentiate between "fake job interview" and "unsuccessful real interview".

Flop7331 2y ago
In the absence of proper documentation and genuine feedback, assume it was a fake. E.g. I had a CodeSignal assessment recently that resulted in the end of my "consideration". If it had been a genuine opening, they'd be able to tell me what the expected score was and how tenured peers at the company are scoring in recent assessments.
- teractiveodular 2y ago
  Most companies refuse to provide applicants any feedback other than yes/no, because it opens them up to lawsuits.
  - Flop7331 2y ago
    Really? Guess they'd better make sure they aren't discriminating unfairly, conducting fake interviews, or doing other things that would get them nailed by a system that exists for good reason.
    - Spooky23 2y ago
      Evidence that a test is a proxy for IQ means you’re gonna lose in court.
      - tptacek 2y ago
        No it doesn't. IQ tests, even explicit ones, are broadly legal in the US.

iknownthing 2y ago

bait & switch jobs should also be fraud