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I've had a few experiences where someone asked for advice, and I shared something very earnestly, come to find out much later that the part of the advice that r

I've had a few experiences where someone asked for advice, and I shared something very earnestly, come to find out much later that the part of the advice that really stuck with them was some extraneous point of mine that was completely tangential to what I was being so earnest about. I've also had a few experiences where someone gave me repeated advice that I rejected several times previous, until it finally "clicked" once. I think the processing of advice is a communication; it takes two. The giver has to try, and the receiver has to be in a state that is receptive to hearing it. Neither side has full control. So overall, I think it's good to just keep trying, knowing that it'll only break through sometimes.

throwawayq3423 2y ago
Advice is tied to the individual giving it. What worked for them might work for you, but it worked given their circumstances, not yours.
- yibg 2y ago
  The article touches on this too, from personal experience it seems like the likelihood of someone taking advice depends on both sides: - How good is the advice? specific > generic, personalized > general, actionable > not actionable, objective > biased etc, from someone knowledgeable > random person with no specific knowledge / expertise in the subject. - How receptive is the person receiving the advise? Was the advise unsolicited? Did the person ask because they want to confirm what they already think or are they actually looking for advise they can consider? Do they trust the person (both in intent and knowledge)? Ironically some times the advise I ignore the most are from those that are closest to me. Family, close friends etc. I know they have my best interest at heart and they might be knowledgeable about the subject and know me so have an understanding of what I want / don't want. But they're biased, so the advise tend to be tainted.
  - throwawayq3423 2y ago
    I've always laughed at tony robbins giving advice to 40k people in a stadium all at once. Unless it's "make you bed in the morning" level generality, it can't possibly apply to everyone at once. You need to know who you are talking to first before you can give them real advice.
    - defrost 2y ago
      Robbins would likely laugh at your comment for getting him completely arse backwards. He's not there to preach to the many, well, not yet at least, he's there for the fewer to self select out and come forward to next level grooming. The Race Track advice grift works by giving 100 prospects each one of ten horses as a sure bet; at the end of a ten horse race 10 punters come forward wanting more advice, each convinced they've now got inside information on the next sure thing. Robbins isn't far removed, his purpose is to gather a group of the gullible who will all pay for the most insipid generic advice deliverable and select a core of true beleivers from that group who will invest even more than just the books. He's not there to give "real advice", he's there to make bank.
      - throwawayq3423 2y ago
        Well ok but i'm just talking about the content itself, not his motivations.

throwawayq3423 2y ago

Advice is tied to the individual giving it. What worked for them might work for you, but it worked given their circumstances, not yours.

yibg 2y ago
The article touches on this too, from personal experience it seems like the likelihood of someone taking advice depends on both sides: - How good is the advice? specific > generic, personalized > general, actionable > not actionable, objective > biased etc, from someone knowledgeable > random person with no specific knowledge / expertise in the subject. - How receptive is the person receiving the advise? Was the advise unsolicited? Did the person ask because they want to confirm what they already think or are they actually looking for advise they can consider? Do they trust the person (both in intent and knowledge)? Ironically some times the advise I ignore the most are from those that are closest to me. Family, close friends etc. I know they have my best interest at heart and they might be knowledgeable about the subject and know me so have an understanding of what I want / don't want. But they're biased, so the advise tend to be tainted.
- throwawayq3423 2y ago
  I've always laughed at tony robbins giving advice to 40k people in a stadium all at once. Unless it's "make you bed in the morning" level generality, it can't possibly apply to everyone at once. You need to know who you are talking to first before you can give them real advice.
  - defrost 2y ago
    Robbins would likely laugh at your comment for getting him completely arse backwards. He's not there to preach to the many, well, not yet at least, he's there for the fewer to self select out and come forward to next level grooming. The Race Track advice grift works by giving 100 prospects each one of ten horses as a sure bet; at the end of a ten horse race 10 punters come forward wanting more advice, each convinced they've now got inside information on the next sure thing. Robbins isn't far removed, his purpose is to gather a group of the gullible who will all pay for the most insipid generic advice deliverable and select a core of true beleivers from that group who will invest even more than just the books. He's not there to give "real advice", he's there to make bank.
    - throwawayq3423 2y ago
      Well ok but i'm just talking about the content itself, not his motivations.