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Might change after getting lobbying checks from Google, Microsoft and Apple.

by rvnx 2y ago

apwell23 2y ago
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- nozzlegear 2y ago
  Sorry, I’m no JD Vance fan but what on earth do you mean he was installed by Silicon Valley? Who installed him, and where did they install him to? Do you mean “Silicon Valley” installed him as Trump’s VP pick? Or just that SV installed him as one of two senators from Ohio — in which case, how did they do that, and more importantly why would they choose a senator from Ohio instead of California? I know Vance is friendly to SV but the idea that there’s some nefarious shadow council of SV tech nerds installing politicians into nebulous places without the public or opposition being generally aware of it is preposterous.
  - KRAKRISMOTT 2y ago
    The Elon and Thiel gang, they are not pro "SV" insomuch as being pro Thiel/Elon oligopolies. If open source AI one day threatens their livelihoods and career, the tune from the WH will change overnight. Right now the SV conservatives are playing catch up on AI so they are happy to push for laissez-faire instead of regulatory capture. I won't be suprised that should the cost of running and finetuning FB Llama models become so cheap that they start to eat into x.ai's business, all of a sudden AI is a massive national security issue and AI safety academics will go back to regurgitating talking points about imaginatory AGI terminator bots.
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  - hnhg 2y ago
    By SV, I think he might mean Peter Thiel and his associates: https://archive.is/1oVs2 https://archive.is/1oVs2 "Narya was backed with about $100mn from Thiel and a cadre of his acquaintances, including former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt and prominent venture capitalists Marc Andreessen and Scott Dorsey."
  - reaperman 2y ago
    GP is likely referring to Peter Thiel’s circle. Cance worked for Thiel for a little while. Here is a detailed article on their involvement in the Vance selection: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/28/jd-vance-peter-thiel-donors-big-tech-trump-vp/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/28/jd-vanc...
  - slt2021 2y ago
    you can just search keywords: jd vance + thiel and educate yourself, it is well known
talldayo 2y ago
Why? All three of those companies have an obvious and outspoken commitment to releasing models for free, they aren't trying to manipulate fear to sell a product like OpenAI.
- chatmasta 2y ago
  Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Apple is similarly partnering with OpenAI. Google has released nerfed versions of its Gemini models (Gemma 2B and Gemma 7B). It seems the only company truly setting an example for open weights is Meta. Hopefully the other companies realize that it’s in their best interest to do the same (as it seems Google is begrudgingly realizing with its nerfed releases). Eventually open weights will win, and if OpenAI (the most ironically named company) continues to rely on closed models as its moat, it will lose.
  - roywiggins 2y ago
    > Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Phi-3? https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/phi-3 https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/phi-3
  - lsaferite 2y ago
    > Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Do the Phi series models not count?
    - chatmasta 2y ago
      Sure they do. I was genuinely asking.
      - Onawa 2y ago
        Well then yes, I would definitely say Phi. And on top of that Microsoft has been releasing a ton of the tooling surrounding LLMs and AI as well, including Semantic Kernel.

Might change after getting lobbying checks from Google, Microsoft and Apple.

by rvnx 2y ago

Might change after getting lobbying checks from Google, Microsoft and Apple.

apwell23 2y ago

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nozzlegear 2y ago
Sorry, I’m no JD Vance fan but what on earth do you mean he was installed by Silicon Valley? Who installed him, and where did they install him to? Do you mean “Silicon Valley” installed him as Trump’s VP pick? Or just that SV installed him as one of two senators from Ohio — in which case, how did they do that, and more importantly why would they choose a senator from Ohio instead of California? I know Vance is friendly to SV but the idea that there’s some nefarious shadow council of SV tech nerds installing politicians into nebulous places without the public or opposition being generally aware of it is preposterous.
- KRAKRISMOTT 2y ago
  The Elon and Thiel gang, they are not pro "SV" insomuch as being pro Thiel/Elon oligopolies. If open source AI one day threatens their livelihoods and career, the tune from the WH will change overnight. Right now the SV conservatives are playing catch up on AI so they are happy to push for laissez-faire instead of regulatory capture. I won't be suprised that should the cost of running and finetuning FB Llama models become so cheap that they start to eat into x.ai's business, all of a sudden AI is a massive national security issue and AI safety academics will go back to regurgitating talking points about imaginatory AGI terminator bots.
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- hnhg 2y ago
  By SV, I think he might mean Peter Thiel and his associates: https://archive.is/1oVs2 https://archive.is/1oVs2 "Narya was backed with about $100mn from Thiel and a cadre of his acquaintances, including former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt and prominent venture capitalists Marc Andreessen and Scott Dorsey."
- reaperman 2y ago
  GP is likely referring to Peter Thiel’s circle. Cance worked for Thiel for a little while. Here is a detailed article on their involvement in the Vance selection: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/28/jd-vance-peter-thiel-donors-big-tech-trump-vp/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/28/jd-vanc...
- slt2021 2y ago
  you can just search keywords: jd vance + thiel and educate yourself, it is well known

talldayo 2y ago

Why? All three of those companies have an obvious and outspoken commitment to releasing models for free, they aren't trying to manipulate fear to sell a product like OpenAI.

chatmasta 2y ago
Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Apple is similarly partnering with OpenAI. Google has released nerfed versions of its Gemini models (Gemma 2B and Gemma 7B). It seems the only company truly setting an example for open weights is Meta. Hopefully the other companies realize that it’s in their best interest to do the same (as it seems Google is begrudgingly realizing with its nerfed releases). Eventually open weights will win, and if OpenAI (the most ironically named company) continues to rely on closed models as its moat, it will lose.
- roywiggins 2y ago
  > Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Phi-3? https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/phi-3 https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/phi-3
- lsaferite 2y ago
  > Microsoft is invested in OpenAI. Have they released any open weight models themselves? Do the Phi series models not count?
  - chatmasta 2y ago
    Sure they do. I was genuinely asking.
    - Onawa 2y ago
      Well then yes, I would definitely say Phi. And on top of that Microsoft has been releasing a ton of the tooling surrounding LLMs and AI as well, including Semantic Kernel.