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Why does this have a news story around it? Not that it doesn’t deserve it, but I think it is remarkable that for the past decade, censorship/bans against modera

Why does this have a news story around it? Not that it doesn’t deserve it, but I think it is remarkable that for the past decade, censorship/bans against moderate or conservative content/accounts has been a normal daily practice of big social media and tech platforms, and no one cared. But now they’re complaining when it affects the other side? Hypocrisy.

ceejayoz 2y ago
Twitter was acquired on a promise not to do this sort of thing. That promise was immediately and repeatedly violated (starting with @ElonJet, which Musk had previously publicly stated he'd leave alone - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ); this is another instance of it. I have a hard time defining "no one cared" in a way that includes "they held Congressional hearings about it". https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/twitter-congressional-hearing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/twitter-congr...
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  This account that this discussion is about was banned for evasion. You’re making up your own narrative on other reasons without evidence. In other words, you’re believing in a conspiracy theory. Isn’t that the phrase applied to these situations these days?
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > This account that this discussion is about was banned for evasion. That's the claim. @ElonJet got banned for a rule they made up after the ban, so I find "Twitter says so" a little dubious as the sourcing. Who's evading what ban here? > In other words, you’re believing in a conspiracy theory. No conspiracy; just Musk being Musk.
  - anigbrowl 2y ago
    While I have no way of knowing for sure, it's not a conspiracy theory by definition. Musk is known for his capricious behavior and is openly partisan (deriding Harris as an 'extinctionist', for example), plus he's often made A Thing of banning or unbanning accounts to please his fans. So the idea that he might ban an account on a whim is certainly plausible. No conspiracy is required when the alleged action can be credibly attributed to a single individual. It basically comes down to whether you believe in Musks' integrity and objectivity, or not.
BugsJustFindMe 2y ago
> for the past decade, censorship/bans against moderate or conservative content/accounts has been a normal daily practice Who exactly was censored/banned? What exactly were the reasons given? What exactly did they do/say?

ceejayoz 2y ago

Twitter was acquired on a promise not to do this sort of thing. That promise was immediately and repeatedly violated (starting with @ElonJet, which Musk had previously publicly stated he'd leave alone - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456 ); this is another instance of it. I have a hard time defining "no one cared" in a way that includes "they held Congressional hearings about it". https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/twitter-congressional-hearing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/us/politics/twitter-congr...

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
This account that this discussion is about was banned for evasion. You’re making up your own narrative on other reasons without evidence. In other words, you’re believing in a conspiracy theory. Isn’t that the phrase applied to these situations these days?
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > This account that this discussion is about was banned for evasion. That's the claim. @ElonJet got banned for a rule they made up after the ban, so I find "Twitter says so" a little dubious as the sourcing. Who's evading what ban here? > In other words, you’re believing in a conspiracy theory. No conspiracy; just Musk being Musk.
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  While I have no way of knowing for sure, it's not a conspiracy theory by definition. Musk is known for his capricious behavior and is openly partisan (deriding Harris as an 'extinctionist', for example), plus he's often made A Thing of banning or unbanning accounts to please his fans. So the idea that he might ban an account on a whim is certainly plausible. No conspiracy is required when the alleged action can be credibly attributed to a single individual. It basically comes down to whether you believe in Musks' integrity and objectivity, or not.

BugsJustFindMe 2y ago

> for the past decade, censorship/bans against moderate or conservative content/accounts has been a normal daily practice Who exactly was censored/banned? What exactly were the reasons given? What exactly did they do/say?