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If you want speed of policymaking, you can become more authoritarian a la china or have a more elitist policymaking system like some portion of european countri

If you want speed of policymaking, you can become more authoritarian a la china or have a more elitist policymaking system like some portion of european countries (see: France banning short haul flights, London congestion charge and ULEZ). I view the election of Donald trump in 2016 as a wholesale rejection of elitism in American policymaking rather than any true desire for conservative values.

HumblyTossed 2y ago
> I view the election of Donald trump in 2016 as a wholesale rejection of elitism in American policymaking rather than any true desire for conservative values. Then he truly did con the American people.
Spivak 2y ago
* The short haul flight ban is great, and widely supported. You don't need those flights anyway because the rail network is cheaper and better. Plus the ban has so many exceptions it's likely to not actually impede you when actually needed, most people wish it was stronger. * The ban was passed by the Assemblée Nationale which is their congress. So I'm not sure what your point is, it wasn't unilateral.
banana_feather 2y ago
> If you want speed of policymaking, you can become more authoritarian a la china or have a more elitist policymaking system like some portion of european countries I didn't realize the United States was an authoritarian system until just a few weeks ago. Free at last, free at last. Can you shed some light on what speeds of policymaking are definitely not authoritarian? Asking for a friend.
- rangestransform 2y ago
  Having unelected, educated bureaucrats make policy like the chevron ruling permitted is definitely more elitist than having direct democracy or elected representatives make policy, which I would consider more populist. I’m not calling it bad or good, that’s just what it is, I think both elitist and populist are bad words these days
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    I’m sorry are you criticizing our bureaucrats for being educated?

HumblyTossed 2y ago

> I view the election of Donald trump in 2016 as a wholesale rejection of elitism in American policymaking rather than any true desire for conservative values. Then he truly did con the American people.

Spivak 2y ago

* The short haul flight ban is great, and widely supported. You don't need those flights anyway because the rail network is cheaper and better. Plus the ban has so many exceptions it's likely to not actually impede you when actually needed, most people wish it was stronger. * The ban was passed by the Assemblée Nationale which is their congress. So I'm not sure what your point is, it wasn't unilateral.

banana_feather 2y ago

> If you want speed of policymaking, you can become more authoritarian a la china or have a more elitist policymaking system like some portion of european countries I didn't realize the United States was an authoritarian system until just a few weeks ago. Free at last, free at last. Can you shed some light on what speeds of policymaking are definitely not authoritarian? Asking for a friend.

rangestransform 2y ago
Having unelected, educated bureaucrats make policy like the chevron ruling permitted is definitely more elitist than having direct democracy or elected representatives make policy, which I would consider more populist. I’m not calling it bad or good, that’s just what it is, I think both elitist and populist are bad words these days
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  I’m sorry are you criticizing our bureaucrats for being educated?