For me it wouldn't be about the 25k upfront,it is just working with Adobe is incredibly painful, same for Oracle. I really really don't want to work with them i

For me it wouldn't be about the 25k upfront,it is just working with Adobe is incredibly painful, same for Oracle. I really really don't want to work with them in any capacity if i can avoid. If say MS charged the same or even double that I would still work with them, they at-least they don't treat their customers as criminals.