> What [the full time design team] do is to move [the menu items] around every few months Poor fuckers probably don't even know that there is a standard -- CUA

> What [the full time design team] do is to move [the menu items] around every few months Poor fuckers probably don't even know that there is a standard -- CUA -- for what order those are supposed to be in: File, Edit, View ... Tools, Window(s), Help.