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Unfortunately PGP still has to solve to problem of how to use it properly without requiring a PhD

MaxBarraclough 2y ago
All major VOIP solutions are already cryptographically secured. In this case the attacker was not able to pull off anything akin to a caller ID impersonation, they made the call from an unknown number and tried to explain it away: > The Vigna deepfaker began explaining that he was calling from a different mobile phone number because he needed to discuss something confidential
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > they made the call from an unknown number and tried to explain it away Also, phones get stolen and people lose their phones. This is fundamentally a social problem. Technology can help but not solve it.
fragmede 2y ago
ChatGPT's read the manual for you and you can ask it for the correct incantation to use.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y ago
  Chapgpt doesn't read shit, doesn't remember shit, and can't tell you shit. It will repeat a common string of words which would probably be "pgp is too hard to use".
  - fragmede 2y ago
    https://chatgpt.com/share/d1f05726-8d41-4c3e-9c82-56a02aaea465 https://chatgpt.com/share/d1f05726-8d41-4c3e-9c82-56a02aaea4...
- collingreen 2y ago
  Getting security right in a scenario where I'm not sure how to tell which commands are right is exactly the kind of situation I don't want hallucinations for.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    pgp is well documented and while i won't die on the hill that it won't generate hallucinations giving you various pgp command lines, especially me esoteric ones, I sincerely doubt it would have problems with basic useage that's haven't memorized that's on various cheat sheets on the web. hallucinations aren't a problem for well trod ground.
galdosdi 2y ago
Just use Signal. It's not 1999 anymore. Public key has been productized all over. When it warns you that someone's identity has changed, that's the time to double check out of band, because under the hood the public key changed. SSH is another example of something that productized the ideas in PGP but easy and straightforward (for typical Unix users at least) I'm sure there's others

All major VOIP solutions are already cryptographically secured. In this case the attacker was not able to pull off anything akin to a caller ID impersonation, they made the call from an unknown number and tried to explain it away: > The Vigna deepfaker began explaining that he was calling from a different mobile phone number because he needed to discuss something confidential

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> they made the call from an unknown number and tried to explain it away Also, phones get stolen and people lose their phones. This is fundamentally a social problem. Technology can help but not solve it.

fragmede 2y ago

ChatGPT's read the manual for you and you can ask it for the correct incantation to use.

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y ago
Chapgpt doesn't read shit, doesn't remember shit, and can't tell you shit. It will repeat a common string of words which would probably be "pgp is too hard to use".
- fragmede 2y ago
  https://chatgpt.com/share/d1f05726-8d41-4c3e-9c82-56a02aaea465 https://chatgpt.com/share/d1f05726-8d41-4c3e-9c82-56a02aaea4...
collingreen 2y ago
Getting security right in a scenario where I'm not sure how to tell which commands are right is exactly the kind of situation I don't want hallucinations for.
- fragmede 2y ago
  pgp is well documented and while i won't die on the hill that it won't generate hallucinations giving you various pgp command lines, especially me esoteric ones, I sincerely doubt it would have problems with basic useage that's haven't memorized that's on various cheat sheets on the web. hallucinations aren't a problem for well trod ground.

galdosdi 2y ago

Just use Signal. It's not 1999 anymore. Public key has been productized all over. When it warns you that someone's identity has changed, that's the time to double check out of band, because under the hood the public key changed. SSH is another example of something that productized the ideas in PGP but easy and straightforward (for typical Unix users at least) I'm sure there's others