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Pedestrians are after thoughts and hsve to constsntly pull on resources to get ahead. Could have cameras or learning systens that adapt to the flow of crowds. B

Pedestrians are after thoughts and hsve to constsntly pull on resources to get ahead. Could have cameras or learning systens that adapt to the flow of crowds. But the world is mot designed for pedestrian peasants.

shiroiushi 2y ago
I wish I could pass a law that forbids politicians from driving or riding in personal automobiles as long as they're in office: they can walk, take public transit, ride a bicycle, or take an airplane (in coach class).
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sofixa 2y ago
> But the world is mot designed for pedestrian peasants. Fortunately, small parts of the world, mostly centralised around anglophone North America and a few other "developing/developed rapidly in an age where cars seemed like the best thing since sliced bread, so everyone else was left behind" countries. And for the latter category, countries like Sri Lanka or Taiwan, it's still usually not as egregious as in anglophone North America because sometimes there are leftovers from before when everyone used to have to walk; not everything was bulldozed like it was in US and Canada. (Probably just because they had less time at destroying everything to remake it for cars). But in a lot of the world, pedestrians are taken into account, and often even prioritised for.
- the_sleaze_ 2y ago
  I believe that early on there was heavy influence to build highways and suburbs to support the burgeoning US auto industry. It really makes no sense otherwise, from a planning perspective. The infrastructure alone to support sewer, gas and electric makes absolutely no sense with such low density residential.
impossiblefork 2y ago
I'm not sure it's actually the rich and powerful necessarily drive much. Of course, there are car obsessed rich people who enjoy driving. I know some Swedish entrepreneurs who are like that, but I also know similarly successful people who never decided to get a driver's license and who lived in Gothenburg and take the tram everywhere. I think the car is a middle class thing, but then peasants were upper middle class, but I assume that's not what you meant.
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  > but then peasants were upper middle class Maybe in a modern context. In the terminology of the time peasants were lower class. The middle class was merchants, and "middle" referred to their social status, not their economic status - it would be unsurprising for members of the middle class to be much richer than members of the upper class.
  - impossiblefork 2y ago
    No. Farmers were respectable landowners who had employees themselves. They were seen as the foundation society stood on and contrasted with the landless and the rich.
    - defrost 2y ago
      The word used was "peasant", in English usage: A peasant is a pre-industrial agricultural laborer or a farmer with limited land-ownership, especially one living in the Middle Ages under feudalism and paying rent, tax, fees, or services to a landlord. In Europe, three classes of peasants existed: non-free slaves, semi-free serfs, and free tenants. ~ wikipedia a poor smallholder or agricultural labourer of low social status (chiefly in historical use or with reference to subsistence farming in poorer countries). ~ Oxford Dictionary So .. limited land ownership (if any) and almost always a rent paying tenant.
      - impossiblefork 2y ago

shiroiushi 2y ago

I wish I could pass a law that forbids politicians from driving or riding in personal automobiles as long as they're in office: they can walk, take public transit, ride a bicycle, or take an airplane (in coach class).

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sofixa 2y ago

> But the world is mot designed for pedestrian peasants. Fortunately, small parts of the world, mostly centralised around anglophone North America and a few other "developing/developed rapidly in an age where cars seemed like the best thing since sliced bread, so everyone else was left behind" countries. And for the latter category, countries like Sri Lanka or Taiwan, it's still usually not as egregious as in anglophone North America because sometimes there are leftovers from before when everyone used to have to walk; not everything was bulldozed like it was in US and Canada. (Probably just because they had less time at destroying everything to remake it for cars). But in a lot of the world, pedestrians are taken into account, and often even prioritised for.

the_sleaze_ 2y ago
I believe that early on there was heavy influence to build highways and suburbs to support the burgeoning US auto industry. It really makes no sense otherwise, from a planning perspective. The infrastructure alone to support sewer, gas and electric makes absolutely no sense with such low density residential.

impossiblefork 2y ago

I'm not sure it's actually the rich and powerful necessarily drive much. Of course, there are car obsessed rich people who enjoy driving. I know some Swedish entrepreneurs who are like that, but I also know similarly successful people who never decided to get a driver's license and who lived in Gothenburg and take the tram everywhere. I think the car is a middle class thing, but then peasants were upper middle class, but I assume that's not what you meant.

thaumasiotes 2y ago
> but then peasants were upper middle class Maybe in a modern context. In the terminology of the time peasants were lower class. The middle class was merchants, and "middle" referred to their social status, not their economic status - it would be unsurprising for members of the middle class to be much richer than members of the upper class.
- impossiblefork 2y ago
  No. Farmers were respectable landowners who had employees themselves. They were seen as the foundation society stood on and contrasted with the landless and the rich.
  - defrost 2y ago
    The word used was "peasant", in English usage: A peasant is a pre-industrial agricultural laborer or a farmer with limited land-ownership, especially one living in the Middle Ages under feudalism and paying rent, tax, fees, or services to a landlord. In Europe, three classes of peasants existed: non-free slaves, semi-free serfs, and free tenants. ~ wikipedia a poor smallholder or agricultural labourer of low social status (chiefly in historical use or with reference to subsistence farming in poorer countries). ~ Oxford Dictionary So .. limited land ownership (if any) and almost always a rent paying tenant.
    - impossiblefork 2y ago