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So far a pi-hole has been sufficient.

by jen20 2y ago

darkwater 2y ago
Wait until mandatory DNS over HTTPS with certificate pinning, embedded in the browser view is a thing everywhere. At least in the Google world, we are in a slowly boiled frog situation.
- jen20 2y ago
  The thing I’m most worried about is manufacturers embedding a SIM to bypass my network. My current approach is no network on the vast majority of TVs (Samsung) and an Apple TV as the only connected device.
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    Services like Amazon Sidewalk exist today, whereby: Your neighbor's Amazon Echo speaker can provide a slice of connectivity to things like television.
  - data-ottawa 2y ago
    Is this worth the extra cost to the manufacturer? Most people I know just give the thing internet access, the tech geeks like us are probably a very small segment.
    - consteval 2y ago
      Yes, kind of. Cars do this for sure. Pretty much all data about your car, plus all your texts and whatnot, are sent over the cellular network. They've been doing it since 2G days, too.
    - reginald78 2y ago
      Probably. Even tiny amount of data per month would allow them to store new local ads and do firmware updates without consent to ruin a TV that was acceptable when purchased. They can wait until after the return window to roll them out. They could do a lot of the content detection on device and just send back the result.
      - shiroiushi 2y ago
        Adding a cellular radio and antenna will add a lot of cost to the BOM, and even worse, having to pay a cellular provider for service will add even more cost. Since most people happily connect their TV to their WiFi anyway, this would only catch the rare people who don't or refuse, and those people are unlikely to respond well to ads anyway, so I don't see mfgrs paying all this money just to annoy the small subset of users who hate ads this much.
TheRealPomax 2y ago
That's not an ad-blocker and you know it. That's a network level DNS filter.
- jen20 2y ago
  …so? It works better than any random browser extension I’ve encountered.
  - consteval 2y ago
    Definitely not, browser extensions like U-block origin are much better because they have the context of the browser and DOM access. So ads aren't just cut out, but the space where the ads would be are too. So no white blocks stopping your reading or ":( can't display this ad" nonsense.

So far a pi-hole has been sufficient.

by jen20 2y ago

So far a pi-hole has been sufficient.

Wait until mandatory DNS over HTTPS with certificate pinning, embedded in the browser view is a thing everywhere. At least in the Google world, we are in a slowly boiled frog situation.

jen20 2y ago
The thing I’m most worried about is manufacturers embedding a SIM to bypass my network. My current approach is no network on the vast majority of TVs (Samsung) and an Apple TV as the only connected device.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  Services like Amazon Sidewalk exist today, whereby: Your neighbor's Amazon Echo speaker can provide a slice of connectivity to things like television.
- data-ottawa 2y ago
  Is this worth the extra cost to the manufacturer? Most people I know just give the thing internet access, the tech geeks like us are probably a very small segment.
  - consteval 2y ago
    Yes, kind of. Cars do this for sure. Pretty much all data about your car, plus all your texts and whatnot, are sent over the cellular network. They've been doing it since 2G days, too.
  - reginald78 2y ago
    Probably. Even tiny amount of data per month would allow them to store new local ads and do firmware updates without consent to ruin a TV that was acceptable when purchased. They can wait until after the return window to roll them out. They could do a lot of the content detection on device and just send back the result.
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      Adding a cellular radio and antenna will add a lot of cost to the BOM, and even worse, having to pay a cellular provider for service will add even more cost. Since most people happily connect their TV to their WiFi anyway, this would only catch the rare people who don't or refuse, and those people are unlikely to respond well to ads anyway, so I don't see mfgrs paying all this money just to annoy the small subset of users who hate ads this much.

TheRealPomax 2y ago

That's not an ad-blocker and you know it. That's a network level DNS filter.

jen20 2y ago
…so? It works better than any random browser extension I’ve encountered.
- consteval 2y ago
  Definitely not, browser extensions like U-block origin are much better because they have the context of the browser and DOM access. So ads aren't just cut out, but the space where the ads would be are too. So no white blocks stopping your reading or ":( can't display this ad" nonsense.