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Cars are man's only predator. They deny us the outside.
by anotherhue 2y ago
Cars are man's only predator. They deny us the outside.
- dyauspitr 2y agoSpeak for yourself. My car opens up the world to me. Without it I would be stuck in urban areas all the time.
- parpfish 2y agoUrban areas are not nearly as damaging to kids as SUBurban areas. Urban areas provide the potential for lots of human interaction and culture. Rural areas provide nature and solitude. Suburban areas give you a three mile walk to a convenience store without sidewalks.
- megamike 2y agoUrban areas are not nearly as damaging to kids as SUBurban areas oh ya? Live in one of the top 5 crime cities in USA and also consider air pollution
- Zambyte 2y agoWhat do you think causes most of the pollution...?
- woodruffw 2y agoIf you rank US cities by both violent crime and by hostility to the urban fabric (e.g. development of highways through dense neighborhoods, removal of reliable mass transit), a pattern emerges: the most dangerous cities in the US are also among the most car dependent. Detroit, Memphis, Birmingham, etc. This also closely tracks with residential air quality.
- kazinator 2y ago> provide the potential for lots of human interaction and culture Mainly for those with money.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoIf that were the case, shouldn't we see drastically different outcomes for urban children versus suburban children?
- parpfish 2y agoThere are so many social/economic confounders going into the urban/suburban divide that any study showing one effect would be refuted by another that used different controls and methodology
- bongodongobob 2y agoIn my anecdotal experience, I definitely have. Grew up in a medium sized Midwest town. I don't know anyone who really made it big. Some people moved to bigger cities and whatnot, but I don't know anyone that really moved up the social ladder significantly. On the other side, every C level/director person I've worked with consulting for the bigger companies around here and elsewhere in the US are almost always from a major urban city. I can tell as soon as I meet them. They speak (I don't mean accent) and handle themselves very differently. There's a certain confidence that comes from having broader social experiences and the opportunities and networks that naturally arise from that. Do you know any multihome millionaires from nowheresville Mississippi? How about Chicago, New York, or LA? Again, my 2c, and I almost consider this obvious.
- bedobi 2y agothen move out of the urban area? you get whatever it is that you want, and those of us who actually enjoy urban areas get a safer, cleaner existence
- bossyTeacher 2y agoIt's interesting how you put it that way. Another way of looking at it is that you depend on your car to explore the world. Can you imagine depending on a drug to enjoy the world? That's what dependency is.
- AnimalMuppet 2y agoBy your standard, either you're walking, you're riding a bicycle, or you're dependent on something - a car, a bus, or a train. And most of us don't want to be limited to bicycle range.
- rckclmbr 2y agoI don’t think anyone is saying we don’t need cars. They want to decrease dependence on cars. The things that are in bicycle range should be accessible by bicycle. Today, they typically aren’t
- kazinator 2y agoMost transit and car trips are well within "bicycle range". For that matter, bicycle trips too.
- kazinator 2y agoMost transit and car trips are well within "bicycle range". For that matter, bicycle trips too. In a congested urban area, the time range of a bicycle is better than that of an automobile, let alone transit. I.e. the radius where you can be by a certain elapsed time.
- bossyTeacher 2y agoThis is why I find the American way of thinking so interesting. You are equating your body to a piece of metal and rubber. Your car is not your body. It is something external to you. Not only that but is also something that apart from being financially taxing on you, also leads you to destroy the planet and contribute to respiratory issues as well increasing rates of obesity by significantly reducing what's arguably the main source of human physical activity. This reminds me of the tobacco industry trying to defend a dependency on something that is clearly bad for you. And please note that I am talking about private cars here. And note that my response was to your "My car opens the world to me" which is not too different to alcoholics being unable to enjoy the world without unhealthy use of alcohol. It is possible to have a city where amenities are within biking or walking distance. Those cities already exist. But the car first mentality will definitely go down in history as one of the leading factors in the poor health outcomes in the US. People think that fitness implies gym when it doesn't. For most of human history, there were no gyms. People engaged in casual walking
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoIn developed countries like Japan and Switzerland, it's very easy to hop on a train in the city centre and hop off in the countryside for an afternoon hike.
- david-gpu 2y ago> My car opens up the world to me But your car closes the world down to other people, children in particular. We have reached the point where children don't walk or cycle to school because it's dangerous... due to all the parents dropping off their kids rather than walking or cycling with them. A classic tragedy of the commons.