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Not really. I've told countless people about how Opera really is the best browser, by far, and how people using Chrome and Firefox are stuck in the stone-age of

by Tomis02 14y ago

Not really. I've told countless people about how Opera really is the best browser, by far, and how people using Chrome and Firefox are stuck in the stone-age of Internet Explorer 6. I'm getting tired to repeat it. Screw it, I'll do a quick run. Depending on how good your computer is, Chrome will buckle (freeze your computer, in my case) sooner or later after you keep increasing the number of tabs, due to the one process per tab design flaw. That does not usually happen with Opera (unless you have some very demanding pages, which doesn't usually happen to me), it will keep going as long as you have the RAM to supply it. Right now opera:cpu shows me a round number of 115 tabs with 1.5 GB RAM usage, plus the plugin wrapper grabbing an additional 400 megs. Given that this particular computer has 12 GB of RAM I think it's very reasonable. Of course, I don't have a rocket computer at home but the performance is very good as well on a mediocre laptop. Now, what good does it do to have 115 tabs if you can't see them or switch between them at your wish? In Chrome you have one line of tabs that keep pushing against another, and at 115 tabs you could not select your tab properly, nevermind reading the tab title. In Opera I just configured my tab bar to wrap to multiple lines and aligned it vertically on the left side. I also have tab groups that work very nicely to minimize unnecessary clutter. I can also turn the tab bar off altogether and move between tabs with ctrl + tab or right mouse button + wheel, or hold ctrl + tab + mouse click. The possibilities for customization are so numerous I can't be bothered to describe them all. Opera is a true browser and it has all these features out of the box without getting in your way. You're a hacker? Where's your curiosity? Explore Opera's features (like mouse gestures, keyboard navigation, and so on) and see for yourself. And by the way, one last thing. The default option for Opera is to restore your tabs from your last browsing session, which was not the case for Chrome and Firefox last time I checked (and if that didn't change it's retarded, although I would understand the reasoning, they don't want to encourage you to keep your tabs open because the browser might buckle under the pressure of 10 open tabs). So really, feel free to keep open as many tabs as you like. You can also use ghostery (an extension) to block all these resource-consuming background scripts, just in case you have reached the limits of your hardware. I have enable 'plugins only on demand', so no Flash player will be loaded without my explicit consent. Again, this is out of the box. Also, content blocker. And so on and so forth.

PerryCox 14y ago
>right now opera:cpu shows me a round number of 115 tabs with 1.5 GB RAM usage That's impressive, but I can't imagine having over 5 tabs open. It would be impossible for me to use that many at once.
- jacobr 14y ago
  I use tabs instead of bookmarks. Opera also has tab groups, so I can drag one tab to another to create a collapsible group of tabs related to a particular project. It's not unusual for me to have a handful of tab groups with a dozen of tabs in each, plus half a dozen of regular tabs for what I'm currently reading. The only down side with this is that browsing is slower when I just have started my browser and I'm waiting for all the tabs to load, but I don't close my browser that often. [Edit: apparently there are startup speed improvements in Opera 12 specifically for the many-tabs-open use case]
- Tomis02 14y ago
  I also use the tab stacking feature, so many related tabs are grouped together. Right now I have 2 full column of tabs and groups on the left side of my screen. It's actually very comfortable, although sometimes I clean up a lot of them. Like another user said here, I use them as bookmarks, or in my case as "read-later" lists, so I never completely forget about something I want to do or read. I think it's a matter of habit. You can't use so many tabs if you don't have (at least) a multiline tab bar, preferably one aligned vertically.
morsch 14y ago
Apparently my Firefox looks very similar to your Opera, everything from left-handed tab bar with groups and plugins on demand to scrolling through tabs with RMB+mouse wheel. I'm literally using all of the features you mention. I think you can set up Chrome in mostly the same way. Of course you need to use extensions while Opera does it all out of the box. I prefer being able to pick-and-choose features and I appreciate the rich playground for ideas of the Firefox extension ecosystem. If anything I wish Firefox did less out of the box. I think I usually use only between 30 and 60 tabs, though it's easy to lose count with tree style tabs and I've certainly never hit a ceiling where things seemed to slow down. But maybe Opera really shines in super-heavy browsing loads. Even if that's true, "stuck in the stone-age" is just flamebait rhetoric.

by Tomis02 14y ago

PerryCox 14y ago

>right now opera:cpu shows me a round number of 115 tabs with 1.5 GB RAM usage That's impressive, but I can't imagine having over 5 tabs open. It would be impossible for me to use that many at once.

jacobr 14y ago
I use tabs instead of bookmarks. Opera also has tab groups, so I can drag one tab to another to create a collapsible group of tabs related to a particular project. It's not unusual for me to have a handful of tab groups with a dozen of tabs in each, plus half a dozen of regular tabs for what I'm currently reading. The only down side with this is that browsing is slower when I just have started my browser and I'm waiting for all the tabs to load, but I don't close my browser that often. [Edit: apparently there are startup speed improvements in Opera 12 specifically for the many-tabs-open use case]
Tomis02 14y ago
I also use the tab stacking feature, so many related tabs are grouped together. Right now I have 2 full column of tabs and groups on the left side of my screen. It's actually very comfortable, although sometimes I clean up a lot of them. Like another user said here, I use them as bookmarks, or in my case as "read-later" lists, so I never completely forget about something I want to do or read. I think it's a matter of habit. You can't use so many tabs if you don't have (at least) a multiline tab bar, preferably one aligned vertically.

morsch 14y ago

Apparently my Firefox looks very similar to your Opera, everything from left-handed tab bar with groups and plugins on demand to scrolling through tabs with RMB+mouse wheel. I'm literally using all of the features you mention. I think you can set up Chrome in mostly the same way. Of course you need to use extensions while Opera does it all out of the box. I prefer being able to pick-and-choose features and I appreciate the rich playground for ideas of the Firefox extension ecosystem. If anything I wish Firefox did less out of the box. I think I usually use only between 30 and 60 tabs, though it's easy to lose count with tree style tabs and I've certainly never hit a ceiling where things seemed to slow down. But maybe Opera really shines in super-heavy browsing loads. Even if that's true, "stuck in the stone-age" is just flamebait rhetoric.