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The linked email story was also interesting: https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-transactional-email/ https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/0

The linked email story was also interesting: https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-transactional-email/ https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-tr... The author's end solution goes against all common HN wisdom (!) This is the way things should work. There should be millions of email senders and receivers, not just 32 mafiosas (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, MailChimp, etc). There are endless counter-examples on HN advocating against hosting something as simple as email yourself, see: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=self-host+email https://hn.algolia.com/?q=self-host+email

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
“As simple as email…” You could at least be realistic instead of blatantly sounding like a zealot.
- varispeed 2y ago
  With things like https://mailinabox.email/ https://mailinabox.email/ it is actually simple.
  - throwaway48540 2y ago
    The difficulty has never been about the SMTP service software itself.
    - varispeed 2y ago
      You need good IP and set all the certs and whatnot. But that is mostly do and forget, apart from refreshing certs once a year. Never had an issue with it, emails get delivered fine.
- troyvit 2y ago
  The notes on self-hosting[1], from somebody making $14k/month relying on Maddy, says it pretty realistically. The author goes into a fair amount of detail covering what he did and it sounds pretty simple compared to what it was ten years ago. I'm not sure zealotry is the best way to push back against conventional wisdom, but otoh the parent comment didn't sound zealous to me. In fact the more I read about Maddy[2] the more it seems to simplify running a mail server compared to when I did it back in the day. I mean you still have to worry about landing an IP address with a bad reputation but it takes care of soooo much of the rest of it. [1] https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-transactional-email/ https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-tr... [2] https://maddy.email/faq/ https://maddy.email/faq/
  - abdullahkhalids 2y ago
    How accurate are IP reputation checking services?

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago

“As simple as email…” You could at least be realistic instead of blatantly sounding like a zealot.

varispeed 2y ago
With things like https://mailinabox.email/ https://mailinabox.email/ it is actually simple.
- throwaway48540 2y ago
  The difficulty has never been about the SMTP service software itself.
  - varispeed 2y ago
    You need good IP and set all the certs and whatnot. But that is mostly do and forget, apart from refreshing certs once a year. Never had an issue with it, emails get delivered fine.
troyvit 2y ago
The notes on self-hosting[1], from somebody making $14k/month relying on Maddy, says it pretty realistically. The author goes into a fair amount of detail covering what he did and it sounds pretty simple compared to what it was ten years ago. I'm not sure zealotry is the best way to push back against conventional wisdom, but otoh the parent comment didn't sound zealous to me. In fact the more I read about Maddy[2] the more it seems to simplify running a mail server compared to when I did it back in the day. I mean you still have to worry about landing an IP address with a bad reputation but it takes care of soooo much of the rest of it. [1] https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-transactional-email/ https://blog.healthchecks.io/2023/08/notes-on-self-hosted-tr... [2] https://maddy.email/faq/ https://maddy.email/faq/
- abdullahkhalids 2y ago
  How accurate are IP reputation checking services?