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The amount of sniffy disdain on HN for anything involving marketing, advertising, SEO or trying to promote a business digitally is laughable. A very large perc
by southernplaces7 2y ago
The amount of sniffy disdain on HN for anything involving marketing, advertising, SEO or trying to promote a business digitally is laughable.
A very large percentage of you who comment and submit here regularly work directly with or in the worst offenders for building the technology behind today's surveillance tracking ad-driven internet. The salaries so many on this site's comment threads "subtly" brag about are directly paid as the fruits of these industries, but oh, how nasty anyone is for marketing their digital wares.
I completely understand disgust with the nature of the prying, spying, constantly tracking, click-baiting modern boom in churned SEO content and all that comes with it, but if you're working for the very companies largely responsible for creating that world, have a bit of humility before throwing shit on any smaller players doing what the system has pushed them into doing to pay their bills.
EDIT: Also, to those of you who say you just use chatGPT or some other major AI to get your content needs settled, congratulations, you're making the content siloing by parasitic ad/digital media companies even worse.
You're handing your eyeballs over to an even smaller group of would-be (or existing) megacorps that don't even at least create any of what they serve you. They snatch a copy of it from others without permission and regurgitate it for you with zero attribution and all the special filters they feel like passing it through for whatever bullshit reason takes their fancy. This will actively make the internet, for all its current flaws, even more centralized, even more controlled and generally even worse. If you thought Google search was getting shitty, just consider how internet search filtered through the prism of chatGPT and a couple others will be. No wonder those same companies are lobbying so fiercely for moat-like regulations in their favor for the sake of "safety"
- c-linkage 2y agoThe first rule of Hacker News is: don't point out hypocrisy.
- southernplaces7 2y agoI'll assume you're being sarcastic.
- renegat0x0 2y agoI really do not understand this comment. Even if somebody works in big tech, what is wrong with that? Where should I work? Would that change anything? Can't I criticize big tech, if I work for one? Can't I try to change big tech from inside? Next: What wrong with "criticizing small players"? I do not have to worry about their bills. This is not my business, it is theirs. They have their own business models, these are their bills. Maybe they have incorrectly positioned their business plan? Do not play victim the card here. It is right that mega corporations were created using our hands, but it was not our decision. Most people do not know what they are doing "using services", but you cannot blame people for using big tech, if there is really nothing else that matters. We may be forced to use some solutions, but it does not have to close our mouths!
- danaris 2y agoHi, a lot of us here don't work for any of those companies. A lot of us here don't work in "big tech" at all, or startups, or anywhere near Silicon Valley. HackerNews is a lot more than just the place for YC people to chat about stuff these days (if it ever was). So...when you see the "sniffy disdain", maybe think twice about who it's actually coming from, and don't immediately assume hypocrisy?