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> In late 2023 the average monthly gross salary of Polish workers is almost 8,000 pln (about $2,000) or about $24,000 per year. In the United States the monthly

by ajuc 2y ago

> In late 2023 the average monthly gross salary of Polish workers is almost 8,000 pln (about $2,000) or about $24,000 per year. In the United States the monthly average salary was about $4,941 per month, coming in at about $59,300 per year at the same time period. In other words, investors and employers can pay for more Polish workers than American ones with the same amount of cash. While this is true - in Poland the difference between IT and non-IT salaries are higher than in US, so it's not a good comparison for cost of hiring programmers in particular. The differences won't be as big. Funnily enough the higher taxes in Poland are the main reason cost of development is effectively LOWER here - because you don't have to save for crazy expansive medical insurances or university funds for your kids - cause it's provided for free by the state - and the private alternatives have to compete with that - so they are cheap as well.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
Yeah, don't want to get too political here, but I was read through that section and could only envison an ouroboros. - The country nixes Universal Health care but companies then complain about needing to fund healthcare benefits. - They kill Pension decades ago and slowly shift to a attrition oriented recruiting and they wonder why workers leave after 6-18 months. - College becomes 3-4 times more expensive than 40 years ago, and then companies complain that entry level wants more money coming out to pay the unbankruptable debt (thanks Sallie Mae!) they had to take at 18 just to get noticed by recruiters at 22-23. - Then instead you ask for "3-4 years of experience with a shipped game" for "entry level", but college doesn't count for experience. All while being unwilling to train juniors and just hope they hit the ground running. Yes, the system is broken and companies have been hammering at the window for decades to help. No wonder it eventually broke.

by ajuc 2y ago

johnnyanmac 2y ago

Yeah, don't want to get too political here, but I was read through that section and could only envison an ouroboros. - The country nixes Universal Health care but companies then complain about needing to fund healthcare benefits. - They kill Pension decades ago and slowly shift to a attrition oriented recruiting and they wonder why workers leave after 6-18 months. - College becomes 3-4 times more expensive than 40 years ago, and then companies complain that entry level wants more money coming out to pay the unbankruptable debt (thanks Sallie Mae!) they had to take at 18 just to get noticed by recruiters at 22-23. - Then instead you ask for "3-4 years of experience with a shipped game" for "entry level", but college doesn't count for experience. All while being unwilling to train juniors and just hope they hit the ground running. Yes, the system is broken and companies have been hammering at the window for decades to help. No wonder it eventually broke.