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These days I get the feeling of being treated as a thief whenever I walk into a Walmart or some Home Depots. Gotta go through a pedestrian gate set up well insi

These days I get the feeling of being treated as a thief whenever I walk into a Walmart or some Home Depots. Gotta go through a pedestrian gate set up well inside the store (turnstile basically) and lots of cameras in your face specifically to say “Hey you thief, we’re watching you with our AI”.

fragmede 2y ago
I've not tried Amazon walkout technology but it sounds like a good application of technology. if the system knows you took something, just charge the user for it rather than making a fuss about it. (in b4 it's Actually Indians.)
- csande17 2y ago
  > (in b4 it's Actually Indians.) Bad news: https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116 https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-... > Though it seemed completely automated, Just Walk Out relied on more than 1,000 people in India watching and labeling videos to ensure accurate checkouts. The cashiers were simply moved off-site, and they watched you as you shopped.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Lol when people are cheaper than AI... Must be a soulcrushing job though
- theamk 2y ago
  eh no, if there is a mistake and someone thinks I stole something, I'd like to be able to explain that I did not, rather than having false charge on my card.
  - sophacles 2y ago
    The way Wal-Mart, Target and others work though isn't that you ever get to explain things. Something scans wrong? Employee punches something in and you don't get wrung up for an item? Some AI camera system decides you've done some sort of switcheroo? They will have the police come to arrest you next time you're at the store and have long since forgotten the details of your last purchase. Now your chance to explain involves lawyer fees - way more expensive than most credit card fees. If you notice the mistake and try to explain to an employee before it's chargable as theft, and think you get it cleared up: there's still a good chance you still get charged and also the employee is fired and/or charged too. Major retailers assume their employees are just as much of a thief as they think you are.
BiteCode_dev 2y ago
Same feeling. Between the cameras, the guards everywhere, the anti-thief systems on products, the alarm portals and the ticket check, the whole experience is super aggressive.
wkat4242 2y ago
Yeah and in some countries like Australia they actually demand to look in your bag even when you've done nothing suspicious. Never happened to me anywhere in Europe but many times in Australia so it must be a local law that they can do that.
- vbezhenar 2y ago
  Can you tell "no" and proceed home? Can they actually capture you? Sounds like nonsense to me. Why people allow that to happen?

fragmede 2y ago

I've not tried Amazon walkout technology but it sounds like a good application of technology. if the system knows you took something, just charge the user for it rather than making a fuss about it. (in b4 it's Actually Indians.)

csande17 2y ago
> (in b4 it's Actually Indians.) Bad news: https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116 https://gizmodo.com/amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-... > Though it seemed completely automated, Just Walk Out relied on more than 1,000 people in India watching and labeling videos to ensure accurate checkouts. The cashiers were simply moved off-site, and they watched you as you shopped.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Lol when people are cheaper than AI... Must be a soulcrushing job though
theamk 2y ago
eh no, if there is a mistake and someone thinks I stole something, I'd like to be able to explain that I did not, rather than having false charge on my card.
- sophacles 2y ago
  The way Wal-Mart, Target and others work though isn't that you ever get to explain things. Something scans wrong? Employee punches something in and you don't get wrung up for an item? Some AI camera system decides you've done some sort of switcheroo? They will have the police come to arrest you next time you're at the store and have long since forgotten the details of your last purchase. Now your chance to explain involves lawyer fees - way more expensive than most credit card fees. If you notice the mistake and try to explain to an employee before it's chargable as theft, and think you get it cleared up: there's still a good chance you still get charged and also the employee is fired and/or charged too. Major retailers assume their employees are just as much of a thief as they think you are.

BiteCode_dev 2y ago

Same feeling. Between the cameras, the guards everywhere, the anti-thief systems on products, the alarm portals and the ticket check, the whole experience is super aggressive.

wkat4242 2y ago

Yeah and in some countries like Australia they actually demand to look in your bag even when you've done nothing suspicious. Never happened to me anywhere in Europe but many times in Australia so it must be a local law that they can do that.

vbezhenar 2y ago
Can you tell "no" and proceed home? Can they actually capture you? Sounds like nonsense to me. Why people allow that to happen?