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That sounds like a carricature of anarchism in some comic. Anarchists in real life are concerned with fascism, capitalism, opression, etc, not the Olympics. A

That sounds like a carricature of anarchism in some comic. Anarchists in real life are concerned with fascism, capitalism, opression, etc, not the Olympics. And even if they did, it's hardly "nationalistic", it's a global gathering of different countries for friendly competition, almost the opposite of nationalism. There would be thousands more nationalistic things to concern themselves.

bluefirebrand 2y ago
I think your description of anarchists is pretty idealistic In my experience, many people who label themselves anarchists are just rebels without a cause. They don't like authority of any sort. Also the Olympics is absolutely nationalist. The competition is friendly but most people don't watch it saying "I hope they all just have fun", they watch it to see their country win.
- coldtea 2y ago
  >In my experience, many people who label themselves anarchists are just rebels without a cause. They don't like authority of any sort. Which is all good an well. Doesn't mean they go around sabotaging the Olympic Games. More like demonstrating against the police and such. >Also the Olympics is absolutely nationalist. The competition is friendly but most people don't watch it saying "I hope they all just have fun", they watch it to see their country win. As far as nationalism goes that's not even worth mentioning, that's peanuts. The last thing any anarchist would be concerned with.
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lahvak 2y ago
Olympics are a great point of national pride for the organizing country. I don't understand why these days we still let each Olympics be organized by a single country. It could very easily become a global event, where different disciplines would happen in different parts of the world. More importantly, though, Olympics have become a major capitalism fest, its increasingly about consumption, and a small number of already very rich people making shitload of money at the expense of the public in the organizing country.
joenot443 2y ago
I don't mean to say that anarchists in real life spend their time discussing how to bring down the Olympics. A more precise framing is that if there were lunatic-jerk-criminals who decided to sabotage the Olympics and it was later revealed that they identified politically as anarchists, I would not be especially surprised. Your position that the Olympics are the opposite of nationalism is a new one to me, though. I think I'd probably disagree. Kathleen Powers wrote in 2021 [1] that nationalism is woven into the fabric of the Olympic Games, I found it convincing enough. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/26/do-olympics-promote-nationalism-international-conflict-heres-research/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/26/do-olympi...

bluefirebrand 2y ago

I think your description of anarchists is pretty idealistic In my experience, many people who label themselves anarchists are just rebels without a cause. They don't like authority of any sort. Also the Olympics is absolutely nationalist. The competition is friendly but most people don't watch it saying "I hope they all just have fun", they watch it to see their country win.

coldtea 2y ago
>In my experience, many people who label themselves anarchists are just rebels without a cause. They don't like authority of any sort. Which is all good an well. Doesn't mean they go around sabotaging the Olympic Games. More like demonstrating against the police and such. >Also the Olympics is absolutely nationalist. The competition is friendly but most people don't watch it saying "I hope they all just have fun", they watch it to see their country win. As far as nationalism goes that's not even worth mentioning, that's peanuts. The last thing any anarchist would be concerned with.
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lahvak 2y ago

Olympics are a great point of national pride for the organizing country. I don't understand why these days we still let each Olympics be organized by a single country. It could very easily become a global event, where different disciplines would happen in different parts of the world. More importantly, though, Olympics have become a major capitalism fest, its increasingly about consumption, and a small number of already very rich people making shitload of money at the expense of the public in the organizing country.

joenot443 2y ago

I don't mean to say that anarchists in real life spend their time discussing how to bring down the Olympics. A more precise framing is that if there were lunatic-jerk-criminals who decided to sabotage the Olympics and it was later revealed that they identified politically as anarchists, I would not be especially surprised. Your position that the Olympics are the opposite of nationalism is a new one to me, though. I think I'd probably disagree. Kathleen Powers wrote in 2021 [1] that nationalism is woven into the fabric of the Olympic Games, I found it convincing enough. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/26/do-olympics-promote-nationalism-international-conflict-heres-research/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/26/do-olympi...