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The suspects are anarchists, they generally despise socialist governments, and most of all they despise both modern Russia and what was the USSR.
by ossobuco 2y ago
The suspects are anarchists, they generally despise socialist governments, and most of all they despise both modern Russia and what was the USSR.
- llamaimperative 2y agoYou’re giving way too much credit to ideological consistency here. If a random Russian guy is willing to bankroll your anarchist LARP, plenty of disaffected young morons will happily take that money under the banner of anarchism.
- ossobuco 2y agoSo as a "disaffected young moron" you'd be willing to risk life imprisonment and crippling fines just because some "random Russian guy" would bankroll your anarchist LARP, in which you don't even believe? Seems to me like you're giving too much credit to ideological inconsistency here. I know european anarchists and they're as ideological as it gets, much more than the average communist as commies are usually more pragmatic. The disillusioned anarchists simply quit the lifestyle as there's nothing to benefit from it if you don't strongly believe in it: only hardship, unpaid work, and sacrifices.
- llamaimperative 2y agoNo I'm saying that sometimes people's interests align and they're willing to look past ideological differences to collaborate. More specifically: an attack can be committed by anarchists and be attributable to Russia, even if anarchists hypothetically hate Russia/USSR/whatever. Russia has been committing arson attacks throughout Europe, it's totally fair to suspect them and "it was actually anarchists" shouldn't obviate that suspicion nearly as much as you're suggesting it should.
- ossobuco 2y agoSeems to me like you actually want Russia to be guilty of this, even in spit of all evidence found so far.
- llamaimperative 2y agoI'm certainly open to alternatives, but yes we should be seriously evaluating this possibility, given... you know... reality: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/russias-brazen-intensifying-sabotage-campaign-europe-rcna147178 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/russias-brazen-i... https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/europe-on-high-alert-after-suspected-moscow-linked-arson-and-sabotage https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/europe... https://sg.news.yahoo.com/3-arrested-kremlin-plot-stage-141713595.html https://sg.news.yahoo.com/3-arrested-kremlin-plot-stage-1417... "It was committed by anarchists" just doesn't address the hypothesis at all.
- mmaniac 2y agoDoing the dirty work of someone whose ambitions differ from yours due to coincidentally aligned short term objectives is exactly what makes one a useful idiot. Anarchists wanted the Tsar gone. Didn't work out for them in the long run.