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It is designed to tell your body you are being force fed something other than food. The author was made sick by it. Litigate this somewhere else. I said it was

It is designed to tell your body you are being force fed something other than food. The author was made sick by it. Litigate this somewhere else. I said it was described as what was essentially a "simulated poison," because force feeding it to people it is analogous to how a mock execution uses "simulated" click of a trigger- it's not poisoning people and firing blanks isn't killing them- but they are both simulated acts intended to force compliance. This isn't "bland," it's manufacturing shit that doesn't kill you immediately and forcing people to eat it. I did not say it was poison, but I'd be pretty suspicious of what your interest is on this one. try not to make it sound like you've been torturing people.

gruez 2y ago
>It is designed to tell your body you are being force fed something other than food. The author was made sick by it. Litigate this somewhere else. It's designed to be bland. Everything else is your conjecture. Moreover, what even is "something other than food"? Like I said in my previous comment, people seem to eat ultraprocessed foods like soylent and mealsquares just fine, and those are probably even further from what "food" actually is. At least with nutriloaf you can make out pieces of the constituent ingredients. >I said it was described as what was essentially a "simulated poison," because force feeding it to people it is analogous to how a mock execution uses "simulated" click of a trigger No, simulated poison would be feeding you denatonium or something. Eating nutriloaf might not be the most appetizing, but based on the ingredients it's nowhere close to eating actual poison. I looked at other sources[1] and so far as I can tell, it's just bland. I also found a lawsuit by an inmate that alleges it was making him sick, but aside from him and the dining critic, I can't find any evidence that it's causing sickness on a large scale, which would be expected given how many institution use it. Maybe it really is "simulated poison" to a few % of people, and in those cases I'd agree it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment, but people who get sick from milk or taco bell, that doesn't mean milk or taco bell is "simulated poison". [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/02/256605441/punishing-inmates-with-the-loaf-persists-in-the-u-s https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/02/256605441/pu... >I did not say it was poison, but I'd be pretty suspicious of what your interest is on this one. try not to make it sound like you've been torturing people. If you have to resort to questioning motives and borderline implying that I torture people, it's probably a sign that you don't have actual responses to the object level question and want to derail the discussion into something else.

gruez 2y ago

>It is designed to tell your body you are being force fed something other than food. The author was made sick by it. Litigate this somewhere else. It's designed to be bland. Everything else is your conjecture. Moreover, what even is "something other than food"? Like I said in my previous comment, people seem to eat ultraprocessed foods like soylent and mealsquares just fine, and those are probably even further from what "food" actually is. At least with nutriloaf you can make out pieces of the constituent ingredients. >I said it was described as what was essentially a "simulated poison," because force feeding it to people it is analogous to how a mock execution uses "simulated" click of a trigger No, simulated poison would be feeding you denatonium or something. Eating nutriloaf might not be the most appetizing, but based on the ingredients it's nowhere close to eating actual poison. I looked at other sources[1] and so far as I can tell, it's just bland. I also found a lawsuit by an inmate that alleges it was making him sick, but aside from him and the dining critic, I can't find any evidence that it's causing sickness on a large scale, which would be expected given how many institution use it. Maybe it really is "simulated poison" to a few % of people, and in those cases I'd agree it would be considered cruel and unusual punishment, but people who get sick from milk or taco bell, that doesn't mean milk or taco bell is "simulated poison". [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/02/256605441/punishing-inmates-with-the-loaf-persists-in-the-u-s https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/01/02/256605441/pu... >I did not say it was poison, but I'd be pretty suspicious of what your interest is on this one. try not to make it sound like you've been torturing people. If you have to resort to questioning motives and borderline implying that I torture people, it's probably a sign that you don't have actual responses to the object level question and want to derail the discussion into something else.