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> these phones do not have even 1/10th of the reliability, smoothness and features of the original 2007 iPhone As someone daily driving Librem 5, I completely

> these phones do not have even 1/10th of the reliability, smoothness and features of the original 2007 iPhone As someone daily driving Librem 5, I completely disagree. Yes, it's somewhat less smooth and reliable, but the amount of available features is much more than in 2007 iPhone. Some features aren't available anywhere else, like desktop mode with desktop apps.

mattl 2y ago
How many more of those do they need to make before all the preorders are released now? I see they’re pushing the assembled in USA one for a few thousand dollars now, presumably they have the parts in stock and can put one together fairly easily.
- fsflover 2y ago
  What are you talking about? All preorders have been shipped. The shipping time is 10 days now: https://puri.sm/posts/all-librem-5-smartphones-have-shipped https://puri.sm/posts/all-librem-5-smartphones-have-shipped.
  - mattl 2y ago
    I check the Purism Reddit from time to time and see people still waiting on devices and with horrible delivery times. I know a lot of free software purists. I don’t know anyone who actually has a Librem 5.
    - fsflover 2y ago
      /r/purism is exceptionally hateful to Purism; they seek any opportunity to harm the company, even by spreading misunderstandings or lies [0]. Are you saying that the official "Products and Availability Chart" [1] is a lie? The delivery delays are well documented by the community [2]. I received my device just fine (after years of waiting of course), and everyone on their forums confirms that shipping works quickly now [3]. [0] https://forums.puri.sm/t/im-giving-up-on-the-librem-5/18399/92 https://forums.puri.sm/t/im-giving-up-on-the-librem-5/18399/... [1] https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/#availability https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/#availability [2] https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/11272 https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/112... [3] https://forums.puri.sm/t/questions-about-ordering-the-librem-5/23426/4 https://forums.puri.sm/t/questions-about-ordering-the-librem...
      - mattl 2y ago
        I’m not saying it’s a lie but that chart is buried on their website. Generally I find the Purism website lacking. How much data does the unlimited AweSIM provide? Some pages say 20gb, some say 22gb, some say 22gb+. I’ve only ever ordered one product from Purism (laptop back in 2018) it took a while to ship and was generally underwhelming. I gave it to an Inkscape developer a year or so ago and went back to using a ThinkPad for the next few years.

mattl 2y ago

How many more of those do they need to make before all the preorders are released now? I see they’re pushing the assembled in USA one for a few thousand dollars now, presumably they have the parts in stock and can put one together fairly easily.

fsflover 2y ago
What are you talking about? All preorders have been shipped. The shipping time is 10 days now: https://puri.sm/posts/all-librem-5-smartphones-have-shipped https://puri.sm/posts/all-librem-5-smartphones-have-shipped.
- mattl 2y ago
  I check the Purism Reddit from time to time and see people still waiting on devices and with horrible delivery times. I know a lot of free software purists. I don’t know anyone who actually has a Librem 5.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    /r/purism is exceptionally hateful to Purism; they seek any opportunity to harm the company, even by spreading misunderstandings or lies [0]. Are you saying that the official "Products and Availability Chart" [1] is a lie? The delivery delays are well documented by the community [2]. I received my device just fine (after years of waiting of course), and everyone on their forums confirms that shipping works quickly now [3]. [0] https://forums.puri.sm/t/im-giving-up-on-the-librem-5/18399/92 https://forums.puri.sm/t/im-giving-up-on-the-librem-5/18399/... [1] https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/#availability https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/#availability [2] https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/11272 https://forums.puri.sm/t/estimate-your-librem-5-shipping/112... [3] https://forums.puri.sm/t/questions-about-ordering-the-librem-5/23426/4 https://forums.puri.sm/t/questions-about-ordering-the-librem...
    - mattl 2y ago
      I’m not saying it’s a lie but that chart is buried on their website. Generally I find the Purism website lacking. How much data does the unlimited AweSIM provide? Some pages say 20gb, some say 22gb, some say 22gb+. I’ve only ever ordered one product from Purism (laptop back in 2018) it took a while to ship and was generally underwhelming. I gave it to an Inkscape developer a year or so ago and went back to using a ThinkPad for the next few years.