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mock executions are banned under most human rights conventions, and nutriloaf as described is simulated poison. given the intent is stated explicitly as removin

mock executions are banned under most human rights conventions, and nutriloaf as described is simulated poison. given the intent is stated explicitly as removing the sense of having eaten from food, there's no consistent system of ethics where this is not torture. it makes the inmate feel like they are starving even though they aren't. I look forward to seeing a case against the manufacturer in the supreme court.

FpUser 2y ago
>"I look forward to seeing a case against the manufacturer in the supreme court." Rather than punishing tools let's punish perpetrators - the ones that came up with the idea.
- FpUser 2y ago
  P.S. Well hello, did not know you guys hang around here
- Bluestein 2y ago
  Just wanted to add that, apparently, borderline non-punitive (just bland) food has been ruled Constitutional ...
  - FpUser 2y ago
    Slavery in penal system is also constitutional.
gjsman-1000 2y ago
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p_j_w 2y ago
> I look forward to seeing a case against the manufacturer in the supreme court. Unless a certain 6 of the current 9 justices miraculously find their way off the court in the next couple months, you’ll be looking forward to this practice continuing either way.
gruez 2y ago
>nutriloaf as described is simulated poison Cut the hyperbole. From the description in the OP it just flavorless with bad texture. It's not great but nowhere close to "simulated poison" or "mock execution". >it makes the inmate feel like they are starving even though they aren't. Where is this from? The OP specifically mentions that he "felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast".
- motohagiography 2y ago
  no hyperbole, read the article: > so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. and then: > That night, my stomach’s rebellion against the loaf was anything but neutral. I felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast. ...followed by a euphemism for serious diarrhea. I'd encourage you to call poison control with those symptoms. Then consider what you would do if you had a kid or loved one with those symptoms and they ate "something" they didn't know what it was. Regarding starving, they feel like they have not eaten, but rather have been poisoned and can no longer eat more. That's not eating.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >no hyperbole, read the article: I did. You cherrypicked one part, which is seemingly contradicted by other parts of the paragraph: "The mushy, disturbingly uniform innards recalled the thick, pulpy aftermath of something you dissected in biology class: so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. But the funny thing about Nutraloaf is the taste. It’s not awful, nor is it especially good. I kept trying to detect any individual element—carrot? egg?—and failing. Nutraloaf tastes blank, as though someone physically removed all hints of flavor." The author admits that taste isn't even bad, so presumably his body is disagreeing with the texture. Maybe I care about texture less than the average person, or the scientists at Aramark managed to make something so textually bad that it transcends normal foods, but I can't imagine something so textually bad that it tastes anywhere close to literal poison. Underneath the writer's flourish, I don't see anything to suggest it's not anything worse than my previous assessment of "just flavorless with bad texture". >...followed by a euphemism for serious diarrhea. Besides the problem reading way too much in between the lines, I can't think of any plausible reason how the food can cause diarrhea. After all, the blandless/bad texture can plausibly describe meal replacements like soylent or meal squares, and those seem to sell well enough to suggest they don't give people gastric distress. >I'd encourage you to call poison control with those symptoms. Then consider what you would do if you had a kid or loved one with those symptoms and they ate "something" they didn't know what it was. Regarding starving, they feel like they have not eaten, but rather have been poisoned and can no longer eat more. That's not eating. I know you're trying really hard to push to "this is poison" angle, but this is just silly. The only reason why you'd call poison control in that case is that there's a plausible chance that household chemicals were consumed. I seriously doubt you're going to call poison control that absent that possibility (eg. your kid coming home from school with upset stomach). Nutriloaf, as bad as it is texture wise, doesn't contain any toxic chemicals. It just tastes bland and has bad texture.

FpUser 2y ago

>"I look forward to seeing a case against the manufacturer in the supreme court." Rather than punishing tools let's punish perpetrators - the ones that came up with the idea.

FpUser 2y ago
P.S. Well hello, did not know you guys hang around here
Bluestein 2y ago
Just wanted to add that, apparently, borderline non-punitive (just bland) food has been ruled Constitutional ...
- FpUser 2y ago
  Slavery in penal system is also constitutional.

gjsman-1000 2y ago

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p_j_w 2y ago

> I look forward to seeing a case against the manufacturer in the supreme court. Unless a certain 6 of the current 9 justices miraculously find their way off the court in the next couple months, you’ll be looking forward to this practice continuing either way.

gruez 2y ago

>nutriloaf as described is simulated poison Cut the hyperbole. From the description in the OP it just flavorless with bad texture. It's not great but nowhere close to "simulated poison" or "mock execution". >it makes the inmate feel like they are starving even though they aren't. Where is this from? The OP specifically mentions that he "felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast".

motohagiography 2y ago
no hyperbole, read the article: > so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. and then: > That night, my stomach’s rebellion against the loaf was anything but neutral. I felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast. ...followed by a euphemism for serious diarrhea. I'd encourage you to call poison control with those symptoms. Then consider what you would do if you had a kid or loved one with those symptoms and they ate "something" they didn't know what it was. Regarding starving, they feel like they have not eaten, but rather have been poisoned and can no longer eat more. That's not eating.
- gruez 2y ago
  >no hyperbole, read the article: I did. You cherrypicked one part, which is seemingly contradicted by other parts of the paragraph: "The mushy, disturbingly uniform innards recalled the thick, pulpy aftermath of something you dissected in biology class: so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. But the funny thing about Nutraloaf is the taste. It’s not awful, nor is it especially good. I kept trying to detect any individual element—carrot? egg?—and failing. Nutraloaf tastes blank, as though someone physically removed all hints of flavor." The author admits that taste isn't even bad, so presumably his body is disagreeing with the texture. Maybe I care about texture less than the average person, or the scientists at Aramark managed to make something so textually bad that it transcends normal foods, but I can't imagine something so textually bad that it tastes anywhere close to literal poison. Underneath the writer's flourish, I don't see anything to suggest it's not anything worse than my previous assessment of "just flavorless with bad texture". >...followed by a euphemism for serious diarrhea. Besides the problem reading way too much in between the lines, I can't think of any plausible reason how the food can cause diarrhea. After all, the blandless/bad texture can plausibly describe meal replacements like soylent or meal squares, and those seem to sell well enough to suggest they don't give people gastric distress. >I'd encourage you to call poison control with those symptoms. Then consider what you would do if you had a kid or loved one with those symptoms and they ate "something" they didn't know what it was. Regarding starving, they feel like they have not eaten, but rather have been poisoned and can no longer eat more. That's not eating. I know you're trying really hard to push to "this is poison" angle, but this is just silly. The only reason why you'd call poison control in that case is that there's a plausible chance that household chemicals were consumed. I seriously doubt you're going to call poison control that absent that possibility (eg. your kid coming home from school with upset stomach). Nutriloaf, as bad as it is texture wise, doesn't contain any toxic chemicals. It just tastes bland and has bad texture.