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No it seems the ideal scenario for cost controlling absurdly over priced medical care.

by hobs 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
This. Why are we blaming people who need medical care for the fact that the system won’t contain costs and is built to maximize extraction and profit? Should these people go without care? Start with destroying pharma benefit managers and Medicare Advantage, and continue hacking and slashing based on cost/time/benefit ratio. https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-health-insurance-diagnosis-payments-b4d99a5d https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-health-insura... | https://archive.is/de2f3 https://archive.is/de2f3 (“Insurers Pocketed $50 Billion From Medicare for Diseases No Doctor Treated”) https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/inside-the-mafia-of-pharma-pricing https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/inside-the-mafia-of-pharm... (“Inside the Mafia of Pharma Pricing”) “Your margin is our opportunity.”
- astromaniak 2y ago
  > Why are we blaming people who need medical care We don't blame them, but without any control we have the highest prices and not so good overall results. Add to that Trump with his industry 'self regulation' idea and you know what's coming...
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  There is a fundamental conflict between first line care and financial efficiency. Countries with successful healthcare institutions use purchasing controls to negotiate. They dont rely on the charity or good nature of suppliers. Instead, they say "thats too expensive, lower the price or we will take the option 90% as good for 10% the cost".
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    Yes. That’s what needs to be done.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Related: https://auchincloss.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-auchincloss-introduces-bipartisan-pharmacists-fight-back-act-to-crack-down-on-predatory-drug-pricing https://auchincloss.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-a... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0oacWBHAJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0oacWBHAJY
hiAndrewQuinn 2y ago
My interpretation of this comment is "It's a shame medical care is so expensive that we need insurance to cover it, rather than being able to cover everything out of pocket even if we get extremely sick".

No it seems the ideal scenario for cost controlling absurdly over priced medical care.

by hobs 2y ago

No it seems the ideal scenario for cost controlling absurdly over priced medical care.

This. Why are we blaming people who need medical care for the fact that the system won’t contain costs and is built to maximize extraction and profit? Should these people go without care? Start with destroying pharma benefit managers and Medicare Advantage, and continue hacking and slashing based on cost/time/benefit ratio. https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-health-insurance-diagnosis-payments-b4d99a5d https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/medicare-health-insura... | https://archive.is/de2f3 https://archive.is/de2f3 (“Insurers Pocketed $50 Billion From Medicare for Diseases No Doctor Treated”) https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/inside-the-mafia-of-pharma-pricing https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/inside-the-mafia-of-pharm... (“Inside the Mafia of Pharma Pricing”) “Your margin is our opportunity.”

astromaniak 2y ago
> Why are we blaming people who need medical care We don't blame them, but without any control we have the highest prices and not so good overall results. Add to that Trump with his industry 'self regulation' idea and you know what's coming...
s1artibartfast 2y ago
There is a fundamental conflict between first line care and financial efficiency. Countries with successful healthcare institutions use purchasing controls to negotiate. They dont rely on the charity or good nature of suppliers. Instead, they say "thats too expensive, lower the price or we will take the option 90% as good for 10% the cost".
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Yes. That’s what needs to be done.
toomuchtodo 2y ago
Related: https://auchincloss.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-auchincloss-introduces-bipartisan-pharmacists-fight-back-act-to-crack-down-on-predatory-drug-pricing https://auchincloss.house.gov/media/press-releases/release-a... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0oacWBHAJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0oacWBHAJY

hiAndrewQuinn 2y ago

My interpretation of this comment is "It's a shame medical care is so expensive that we need insurance to cover it, rather than being able to cover everything out of pocket even if we get extremely sick".