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Honestly, I kind of missed Hamachi in the last decades. It was such a superb and easy to use tool to design/configure your own private networks at the time. Fi
by cookiengineer 2y ago
Honestly, I kind of missed Hamachi in the last decades.
It was such a superb and easy to use tool to design/configure your own private networks at the time. Filesharing, local game LANs, development cooperation, heck, even media streaming was so easily done at the time.
Personally I think that the future of peer to peer isn't tailscale, it's more someting along the lines of a selfhosted hamachi variant that's able to put generically nodes together from all across different NATs and ASNs, generically understanding NAT breaking techniques and STUN/TURN/turtle routing.
A tool like this that could also allow remote users to chime in without a centralized VPN gateway would be a killer feature for the modern world.
- wmf 2y agoThat sounds a lot like Headscale.
- cookiengineer 2y agoThe issue I have with tailscale/headscale is that its focus isn't being an end user app that people can start on demand. Hamachi was different because a child could use it (literally). It was designed like an instant messenger, and you could easily create groups and invite friends for a LAN party. No IP masks, no hashes, none of that complicated stuff was necessary. I'd only see maybe a tool that was built on top of headscale that could do that, but headscale's focus is too far off for something like that, and in my opinion too low level.