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Microsoft didn't ruin Minecraft -- all they did was graciously allow the Java version (moddable) to continue to exist and improve while making Bedrock work cons

Microsoft didn't ruin Minecraft -- all they did was graciously allow the Java version (moddable) to continue to exist and improve while making Bedrock work consistently cross-platform (way more important than you may realize, so many kids are introduced via phones and tablets) and be the place where branded IP / predictable content goes. My 12 year old son has been playing since he was 6 I think, and is an unbelievable builder now, thanks mostly to YouTube, Curseforge, mods like Create and Axiom, and good old-fashioned elbow grease. He also builds on Roblox (which requires a bit of my input to get a lot of the actual code functioning) but modeling and world-building in Studio is 100% him. I think back to my 12 year old days of making DOOM and Hexen WADs before I really learned to code -- what the kids have nowadays is light years beyond what we had, and I love it lol

verdverm 2y ago
I believe they also changed their policy so that if you buy Minecraft, you can access both Java and Bedrock (I only play Java)
- mylastattempt 2y ago
  Can confirm that you can buy it from the Microsoft Store as a bundle, so for $30-$40 you get both Bedrock and Java edition.
nottorp 2y ago
> making Bedrock work consistently cross-platform Pray tell, where are the Mac and Linux versions of Bedrock? Have they removed the limitations on world and redstone updates in Bedrock yet, or is it still only updating right around you in the name of rendering distance?
- kevinsync 2y ago
  Both fair points / complaints. I guess my original thought was really that Bedrock is a great Trojan horse for kids who would otherwise not discover the game because it runs on Windows, iOS, Android, Xbox, PlayStation, Switch etc (and by extension, possibly get into computers, coding, game design, etc as a result) Mac / Linux really ought to be supported too, but the vast majority of kids are elsewhere.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    > but the vast majority of kids are elsewhere. Yes, one of the things that ticks me off :) See my other downmodded comment on this thread. Don't restrict this only to kids, people...
kaba0 2y ago
Maybe they would have been better off by simply trying to make it run on mobiles as is? It’s java, there is no reason why it couldn’t just work - some people do play the java version on ipads even.
- hot_gril 2y ago
  iPads and lots of other systems can't run Java, that's why they made Bedrock. Also maybe cause Java is slow.
brisky 2y ago
It's just the feeling, but I think Microsoft is itching to kill the Java edition
hot_gril 2y ago
Microsoft ruined Minecraft by permanently locking a ton of existing users out of their accounts.
- hot_gril 2y ago
  * Mostly the long-time players who bought the game in alpha or beta
  - kevinsync 2y ago
    I was not aware of this, that sucks!

verdverm 2y ago

I believe they also changed their policy so that if you buy Minecraft, you can access both Java and Bedrock (I only play Java)

mylastattempt 2y ago
Can confirm that you can buy it from the Microsoft Store as a bundle, so for $30-$40 you get both Bedrock and Java edition.

nottorp 2y ago

> making Bedrock work consistently cross-platform Pray tell, where are the Mac and Linux versions of Bedrock? Have they removed the limitations on world and redstone updates in Bedrock yet, or is it still only updating right around you in the name of rendering distance?

kevinsync 2y ago
Both fair points / complaints. I guess my original thought was really that Bedrock is a great Trojan horse for kids who would otherwise not discover the game because it runs on Windows, iOS, Android, Xbox, PlayStation, Switch etc (and by extension, possibly get into computers, coding, game design, etc as a result) Mac / Linux really ought to be supported too, but the vast majority of kids are elsewhere.
- nottorp 2y ago
  > but the vast majority of kids are elsewhere. Yes, one of the things that ticks me off :) See my other downmodded comment on this thread. Don't restrict this only to kids, people...

kaba0 2y ago

Maybe they would have been better off by simply trying to make it run on mobiles as is? It’s java, there is no reason why it couldn’t just work - some people do play the java version on ipads even.

hot_gril 2y ago
iPads and lots of other systems can't run Java, that's why they made Bedrock. Also maybe cause Java is slow.

brisky 2y ago

It's just the feeling, but I think Microsoft is itching to kill the Java edition

hot_gril 2y ago

Microsoft ruined Minecraft by permanently locking a ton of existing users out of their accounts.

hot_gril 2y ago
* Mostly the long-time players who bought the game in alpha or beta
- kevinsync 2y ago
  I was not aware of this, that sucks!