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I guess I'm lucky in that I don't use social media and live in a pretty active, healthy community where there's not much obesity. People here look like Patagoni

I guess I'm lucky in that I don't use social media and live in a pretty active, healthy community where there's not much obesity. People here look like Patagonia models, lol. I've vaguely heard about the anti-fat-shaming movement but never quite understood it. Sure, you shouldn't insult someone for being overweight, but it's undeniably really terrible for their health and for society. I mean, I get it, I'm overweight myself and know it's not easy to change, but I'm working on it. I don't want to just sit back and accept it, I want to change it. And if a doctor criticized my lifestyle, I'd try to listen and do what I can. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't society generally encourage its citizens to be healthier...?

Someone1234 2y ago
> What's wrong with that? Shouldn't society generally encourage its citizens to be healthier...? Yes. Therefore, why are these same anti-overweight people also anti-Ozempic? It isn't about what is healthiest, it is about moral judgements and feeling superior.
- lazide 2y ago
  IMO, it’s also a variant of crabs-in-bucket. How dare they get healthier/fitter/etc. without putting in all the work I did!
  - solardev 2y ago
    That's a good point; hadn't thought about that. It must look like "cheating" to the people who did it the hard way. I see the same sort of attitude from people who hate e-bikes: how dare they ride effortlessly up this hill that took me months of training and fitness to conquer!
    - lazide 2y ago
      And in some sense - maybe it is ‘doping’? But c’mon, fuck that.
lazide 2y ago
What’s wrong with recognizing being fat/obese is unhealthy? Well, if someone is at the point where they think they can’t actually fix the problem, and can’t deal with it - and it’s a real problem - they’ll tend to lash out, gaslight people, project it onto others, etc. Which, since they refuse to actually address the problem, means that behavior/problem is also not likely to change. So eventually, society either gives up, or doubles down.
Izkata 2y ago
Fat-shaming is about making people feel even worse about themselves. Most people's reactions to it aren't "time to lose weight", it's more like "time for more comfort food". Anti-fat-shaming started as a recognition of this. A doctor having a serious conversation originally wouldn't have been included in that bucket.
- lazide 2y ago
  A bunch of folks now a days will definitely scream fat shaming if a Dr tells them though.

Someone1234 2y ago

> What's wrong with that? Shouldn't society generally encourage its citizens to be healthier...? Yes. Therefore, why are these same anti-overweight people also anti-Ozempic? It isn't about what is healthiest, it is about moral judgements and feeling superior.

lazide 2y ago
IMO, it’s also a variant of crabs-in-bucket. How dare they get healthier/fitter/etc. without putting in all the work I did!
- solardev 2y ago
  That's a good point; hadn't thought about that. It must look like "cheating" to the people who did it the hard way. I see the same sort of attitude from people who hate e-bikes: how dare they ride effortlessly up this hill that took me months of training and fitness to conquer!
  - lazide 2y ago
    And in some sense - maybe it is ‘doping’? But c’mon, fuck that.

lazide 2y ago

What’s wrong with recognizing being fat/obese is unhealthy? Well, if someone is at the point where they think they can’t actually fix the problem, and can’t deal with it - and it’s a real problem - they’ll tend to lash out, gaslight people, project it onto others, etc. Which, since they refuse to actually address the problem, means that behavior/problem is also not likely to change. So eventually, society either gives up, or doubles down.

Izkata 2y ago

Fat-shaming is about making people feel even worse about themselves. Most people's reactions to it aren't "time to lose weight", it's more like "time for more comfort food". Anti-fat-shaming started as a recognition of this. A doctor having a serious conversation originally wouldn't have been included in that bucket.

lazide 2y ago
A bunch of folks now a days will definitely scream fat shaming if a Dr tells them though.