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Tbh Microsoft hasn't done anything near as impressive as the modding community. It's nice that they are still developing the Java edition so the modding communi

Tbh Microsoft hasn't done anything near as impressive as the modding community. It's nice that they are still developing the Java edition so the modding community can continue though Check out the Create mod If Microsoft ever adds anything as cool as that to Minecraft, I may agree with you that they are keeping it new and interesting

tialaramex 2y ago
I don't think it would ever "work" for Minecraft to attempt something like one of the big mods. Even "Better Than Wolves" which most people have been exposed to via packs with a later, richer "Better With Mods" is sort of giving the game away. Yes, the things "Better Than Wolves" did are better than what Minecraft itself delivered in that timeframe (Wolves, duh) but often what Minecraft's devs are doing is fundamental, infrastructure work. Mojang and then Microsoft make two kinds of ore, and then add a third, boring - but modders couldn't have added six hundred more kinds of ore without that. The built-in biomes are fine but they're not as radical as anything modders have done - but modders couldn't have added new biomes without that infrastructure. I think Mojang and Microsoft have been very good at sketching in new ideas, enriching the concept rather than refining all the details. They've also been good, because it's easier for a corporation, at completion. Anybody still waiting for Jaded's Agrarian Skies 2 ? How about for a meaningful end to Twilight Forest ? Modern packs tend to play the non-ending of Twilight Forest as if that's normal - gating further progress on the Magic Lamp for example, or just putting everything after the Trolls as optional - but wandering around the final castle it's obvious this just isn't finished. I play almost exclusively modded, mostly ascend-to-godhood type packs, and it's still very noticeable how different a modern pack is (based on modern Minecraft) than the 1.7 era packs we started out playing, because the base game is significantly better.
verdverm 2y ago
The Vault Hunters mod(pack) is pretty great too (includes create, but adds good RPG elements without being an RPG) Create is the most Minecrafty mod for sure
nottorp 2y ago
> The sheer quantity of weird and delightful stuff they've added has kept Minecraft new and interesting for over a decade. Yeah, you can only say that if you've never ran across Java edition mods :) Incidentally, a good chunk of stuff that has been added across the years was present in mods first.

tialaramex 2y ago

I don't think it would ever "work" for Minecraft to attempt something like one of the big mods. Even "Better Than Wolves" which most people have been exposed to via packs with a later, richer "Better With Mods" is sort of giving the game away. Yes, the things "Better Than Wolves" did are better than what Minecraft itself delivered in that timeframe (Wolves, duh) but often what Minecraft's devs are doing is fundamental, infrastructure work. Mojang and then Microsoft make two kinds of ore, and then add a third, boring - but modders couldn't have added six hundred more kinds of ore without that. The built-in biomes are fine but they're not as radical as anything modders have done - but modders couldn't have added new biomes without that infrastructure. I think Mojang and Microsoft have been very good at sketching in new ideas, enriching the concept rather than refining all the details. They've also been good, because it's easier for a corporation, at completion. Anybody still waiting for Jaded's Agrarian Skies 2 ? How about for a meaningful end to Twilight Forest ? Modern packs tend to play the non-ending of Twilight Forest as if that's normal - gating further progress on the Magic Lamp for example, or just putting everything after the Trolls as optional - but wandering around the final castle it's obvious this just isn't finished. I play almost exclusively modded, mostly ascend-to-godhood type packs, and it's still very noticeable how different a modern pack is (based on modern Minecraft) than the 1.7 era packs we started out playing, because the base game is significantly better.

verdverm 2y ago

The Vault Hunters mod(pack) is pretty great too (includes create, but adds good RPG elements without being an RPG) Create is the most Minecrafty mod for sure

nottorp 2y ago

> The sheer quantity of weird and delightful stuff they've added has kept Minecraft new and interesting for over a decade. Yeah, you can only say that if you've never ran across Java edition mods :) Incidentally, a good chunk of stuff that has been added across the years was present in mods first.