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One of the other innovations of Minecraft is that they didn't worry too much about rendering chunks in a timely manner. When you're on multiplayer and moving fa

One of the other innovations of Minecraft is that they didn't worry too much about rendering chunks in a timely manner. When you're on multiplayer and moving fast its not uncommon for the landscape to get rendered right infront of your eyes. Some games go to great lengths to avoid that (e.g. slow the player down or have distance fog so that they never notice areas being loaded). But if the game is fun, no-one cares about hiding the loading.

pphysch 2y ago
I don't know that it's an "innovation" as much as a lucky break. I would say it's one of Minecraft's systemic flaws, actually. It greatly constrains how smooth exploration can be in what is otherwise an interesting world to explore.
- preciousoo 2y ago
  I believe they solved (to a large degree) it in their C++ rendering engine that they use for Bedrock
  - astrobe_ 2y ago
    Yeah, Minetest which was C++ from the start manages well these days. It still offers distance fog, which I think is something you want anyway for aesthetic reasons - being able to see clearly 5 km away feels wrong, especially if your game does have a weather system. OP sounds a bit like "sour grapes" to me, especially in this case. Other games deal with the issue with level-of-detail (LoD) tricks, or make it a proper part of the game (e.g. the "popping" of objects like trees is animated).
  - codeulike 2y ago
    If you're playing over a network you still get chunks loaded infront of your eyes sometimes because it depends on the network/speed of the host
    - medstrom 2y ago
      Not even network speed. If you're just playing multiplayer on 1 console, that creates a client-server setup behind the scenes. On the Nintendo Switch, boat travel is hell because every 20 seconds you'll hit the invisble wall at the edge of the sea that makes you wait 20 more seconds before you can continue rowing.
      - preciousoo 2y ago
        Sheesh I don’t play bedrock but that sounds infuriating

pphysch 2y ago

I don't know that it's an "innovation" as much as a lucky break. I would say it's one of Minecraft's systemic flaws, actually. It greatly constrains how smooth exploration can be in what is otherwise an interesting world to explore.

preciousoo 2y ago
I believe they solved (to a large degree) it in their C++ rendering engine that they use for Bedrock
- astrobe_ 2y ago
  Yeah, Minetest which was C++ from the start manages well these days. It still offers distance fog, which I think is something you want anyway for aesthetic reasons - being able to see clearly 5 km away feels wrong, especially if your game does have a weather system. OP sounds a bit like "sour grapes" to me, especially in this case. Other games deal with the issue with level-of-detail (LoD) tricks, or make it a proper part of the game (e.g. the "popping" of objects like trees is animated).
- codeulike 2y ago
  If you're playing over a network you still get chunks loaded infront of your eyes sometimes because it depends on the network/speed of the host
  - medstrom 2y ago
    Not even network speed. If you're just playing multiplayer on 1 console, that creates a client-server setup behind the scenes. On the Nintendo Switch, boat travel is hell because every 20 seconds you'll hit the invisble wall at the edge of the sea that makes you wait 20 more seconds before you can continue rowing.
    - preciousoo 2y ago
      Sheesh I don’t play bedrock but that sounds infuriating