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I grew up in Poland in the 00's, so long after the transformation and I would already know actual pizza ("actual" meaning that my favorite pizza was ground meat

I grew up in Poland in the 00's, so long after the transformation and I would already know actual pizza ("actual" meaning that my favorite pizza was ground meat with garlic sauce and caraway in a pizzeria that was likely one of the first ones that opened in my hometown), but I do recall recipes that were remnants of the older time. My mom got a "pizza" recipe from an elderly friend, and this "pizza" was basically a sauerkraut quiche with cheese and ketchup on top. I think that everyone there has a family recipe that was named after some foreign food, but is in fact only vaguely similar to the original - for example one friend of mine brought "Saigon rolls" to a party, and these were just crepes stuffed with mushroom filling typical to our cuisine.

seanthemon 2y ago
Lol Saigon Pierogies
- stratocumulus0 2y ago
  Not even Pierogies, these were literally wheat crepes folded twice in a turnover way. It's basically krokiety, just with a different shape.
petre 2y ago
> My mom got a "pizza" recipe from an elderly friend, and this "pizza" was basically a sauerkraut quiche with cheese and ketchup on top Of course. Polish pizza has to have cabbage. We made it in a rectangular tray in the oven and it used pita-like spongy dough. My mom got a better recipe using dough mixed with cheese made from maturated farmers' sheep's cheese that is found in the Balkans, at farmers' markets. There's a dry or a creamy version and looks like this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1258003877/mihalic-cheese-naturel-cheese-best https://www.etsy.com/listing/1258003877/mihalic-cheese-natur... The dryer version is minced and kneaded like dough to obtain the cheese that you mix in the dough. One would pre bake the dough and then put ground meat mixed with ground tomatoes or tomato slices or thick tomato stock, mushrooms and maybe some spinach for something green. Then you'd bake the whole thing. Actually pizza was originally shepards' pie, but the Italians also put tomato sauce on it, their cheese was mozarella and spiced it with basil, of course. They took it with them to the US and the Americans loved it. So contemporary pizza is an Italian American food, because it got really popular in the US. Just like spaghetti alla carbonara, where the US soldiers stationed in Sicily during WW2 would eat their ham and eggs mixed with pasta for breakfast, then went along their business bombing Axis countries using the B17 Flying Fortress.
- m463 2y ago
  > Of course. Polish pizza has to have cabbage. I always thought pizza drama was ridiculous ("pizza should not have pineapple!") But cabbage on pizza may make me reassess my opinion...

seanthemon 2y ago

Lol Saigon Pierogies

stratocumulus0 2y ago
Not even Pierogies, these were literally wheat crepes folded twice in a turnover way. It's basically krokiety, just with a different shape.

petre 2y ago

> My mom got a "pizza" recipe from an elderly friend, and this "pizza" was basically a sauerkraut quiche with cheese and ketchup on top Of course. Polish pizza has to have cabbage. We made it in a rectangular tray in the oven and it used pita-like spongy dough. My mom got a better recipe using dough mixed with cheese made from maturated farmers' sheep's cheese that is found in the Balkans, at farmers' markets. There's a dry or a creamy version and looks like this: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1258003877/mihalic-cheese-naturel-cheese-best https://www.etsy.com/listing/1258003877/mihalic-cheese-natur... The dryer version is minced and kneaded like dough to obtain the cheese that you mix in the dough. One would pre bake the dough and then put ground meat mixed with ground tomatoes or tomato slices or thick tomato stock, mushrooms and maybe some spinach for something green. Then you'd bake the whole thing. Actually pizza was originally shepards' pie, but the Italians also put tomato sauce on it, their cheese was mozarella and spiced it with basil, of course. They took it with them to the US and the Americans loved it. So contemporary pizza is an Italian American food, because it got really popular in the US. Just like spaghetti alla carbonara, where the US soldiers stationed in Sicily during WW2 would eat their ham and eggs mixed with pasta for breakfast, then went along their business bombing Axis countries using the B17 Flying Fortress.

m463 2y ago
> Of course. Polish pizza has to have cabbage. I always thought pizza drama was ridiculous ("pizza should not have pineapple!") But cabbage on pizza may make me reassess my opinion...