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If $x is nothing then people will keep paying it and there'll be no need for early termination fees.

by beej71 2y ago

dylan604 2y ago
You've maliciously manipulated what I said. I said if $X/month allows you to earn 100x $X, then it is worth it. Early terminations fees have absolutely nothing to do with that. At. All. Sometimes, people go on extended periods of not having work. Creative fields are very ebb&flow drought/flood type of work. If you're a solo person, sometimes you get bogged down in the current project to the point you don't have time to hunt for the next project. When the current project ends, you could hit a dry spell for an expended time. At that point, I could see wanting to stop paying for the software you are not currently using. However, back in the day, Photoshop was ~$1000 (using nice easy round number) for the full package. I think it was closer to $1500 for full, and $999 for upgrades, but that's too in the weeds. Updates were pretty much annually. So, you've got $1000/12 months = $83/month (but it was a lump sum payment only). Now, it's ~$60/month with much more frequent updates. If you paid the lump sum and then went on hiatus, you were still out that money. People complain about forced to not be able to use their 10 year old version because that's all the features you need. Okay, sounds legit. However, good luck installing any 10 year old software on modern OSes. There are times were software has to be kept up to date with the OS. The 32bit to 64bit was a big one even if it was more than 10 years ago. Again, I get trying to learn while not getting paid but needing to know it so you can have a chance to get paid. That's what I always told myself, that my using the pirated versions was for learning only. I never made any money from its use. Now, I get paid to use it, and I have a legit license. Pirating was much easier before the SaaS offerings, so I can appreciate that. For once, it pays to be old.

If $x is nothing then people will keep paying it and there'll be no need for early termination fees.

by beej71 2y ago

If $x is nothing then people will keep paying it and there'll be no need for early termination fees.

You've maliciously manipulated what I said. I said if $X/month allows you to earn 100x $X, then it is worth it. Early terminations fees have absolutely nothing to do with that. At. All. Sometimes, people go on extended periods of not having work. Creative fields are very ebb&flow drought/flood type of work. If you're a solo person, sometimes you get bogged down in the current project to the point you don't have time to hunt for the next project. When the current project ends, you could hit a dry spell for an expended time. At that point, I could see wanting to stop paying for the software you are not currently using. However, back in the day, Photoshop was ~$1000 (using nice easy round number) for the full package. I think it was closer to $1500 for full, and $999 for upgrades, but that's too in the weeds. Updates were pretty much annually. So, you've got $1000/12 months = $83/month (but it was a lump sum payment only). Now, it's ~$60/month with much more frequent updates. If you paid the lump sum and then went on hiatus, you were still out that money. People complain about forced to not be able to use their 10 year old version because that's all the features you need. Okay, sounds legit. However, good luck installing any 10 year old software on modern OSes. There are times were software has to be kept up to date with the OS. The 32bit to 64bit was a big one even if it was more than 10 years ago. Again, I get trying to learn while not getting paid but needing to know it so you can have a chance to get paid. That's what I always told myself, that my using the pirated versions was for learning only. I never made any money from its use. Now, I get paid to use it, and I have a legit license. Pirating was much easier before the SaaS offerings, so I can appreciate that. For once, it pays to be old.