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The more experience I accumulate, the more I rely on GUIs. Explanation: when I was younger I used exclusively the CLI and underestimated GUIs. Now I tend to app

by dakiol 2y ago

The more experience I accumulate, the more I rely on GUIs. Explanation: when I was younger I used exclusively the CLI and underestimated GUIs. Now I tend to appreciate GUIs and use them more.

lucianbr 2y ago
If you're experienced with the command line, it's easy to use GUIs and get good results. If one starts with GUIs and doesn't really understand what is behind, then all kinds of trouble happen. So I guess, as with any tool, understanding is key.
- lukan 2y ago
  Not all GUIs are just a graphical wrapper for a CLI. But in general sure, understanding the tech behind helps.
  - lucianbr 2y ago
    No doubt, if you're working in AutoCAD, there's no command line that you need to understand first. But then again, if you're working in AutoCAD, you'd never say "I used to work in CLI only, now I use GUIs more and more". Clearly they meant GUIs that have CLIs behind, or at least CLI alternatives.
    - kalleboo 2y ago
      AutoCAD is an unlucky choice of example here, because it's one of the few GUI drawing tools that actually does have a command line behind it that you have to understand sometimes! Look up a screenshot of AutoCAD and you can see the command prompt at the bottom of the window. And if you were using AutoCAD in the 80's you can say exactly that you used to use the CLI only!
      - lucianbr 2y ago
        CorelDraw? Word? Audacity? Or maybe it will turn out that all GUI software has command line somewhere inside. I think my original point stands even better in that case. Yay for hair-splitting, I guess.
        lukan 2y ago
        "Or maybe it will turn out that all GUI software has command line somewhere inside" Not at all. Most maybe, but since I wrote GUIs without a CLI I can say for sure that not all have them.
        lukan 2y ago
        I mean, every web GUI, which are now probably the majority of GUIs do not have a CLI anymore..
devjab 2y ago
I used to sort of like the Azure GUI (yes I’m a total psychopath), but then they changed it 9 billion times and now I just use the CLI. It’s frankly often experiences like this which drives me back to the cli. I like Gitkraken, but the it does an update and forgets my SSO or it doesn’t support a specific thing I need to do and then I’m using their console. I’m not really religious about anything, but I often end up going back to the CLI for a lot of things because it’s just less of an annoyance.
the_duke 2y ago
Can you give some examples? Which GUIs are you using?
- dakiol 2y ago
  I have used git extensively in the terminal. But nowadays I see myself more and more relying on GUIs like the ones integrated in Intellij IDE, Source Tree, etc. Another example could be qemu and the GUIs that we have nowadays. One final example would be simply drag and dropping files via Finder instead of using cp/mv

by dakiol 2y ago

The more experience I accumulate, the more I rely on GUIs. Explanation: when I was younger I used exclusively the CLI and underestimated GUIs. Now I tend to appreciate GUIs and use them more.

lucianbr 2y ago

If you're experienced with the command line, it's easy to use GUIs and get good results. If one starts with GUIs and doesn't really understand what is behind, then all kinds of trouble happen. So I guess, as with any tool, understanding is key.

lukan 2y ago
Not all GUIs are just a graphical wrapper for a CLI. But in general sure, understanding the tech behind helps.
- lucianbr 2y ago
  No doubt, if you're working in AutoCAD, there's no command line that you need to understand first. But then again, if you're working in AutoCAD, you'd never say "I used to work in CLI only, now I use GUIs more and more". Clearly they meant GUIs that have CLIs behind, or at least CLI alternatives.
  - kalleboo 2y ago
    AutoCAD is an unlucky choice of example here, because it's one of the few GUI drawing tools that actually does have a command line behind it that you have to understand sometimes! Look up a screenshot of AutoCAD and you can see the command prompt at the bottom of the window. And if you were using AutoCAD in the 80's you can say exactly that you used to use the CLI only!
    - lucianbr 2y ago
      CorelDraw? Word? Audacity? Or maybe it will turn out that all GUI software has command line somewhere inside. I think my original point stands even better in that case. Yay for hair-splitting, I guess.
      - lukan 2y ago
        "Or maybe it will turn out that all GUI software has command line somewhere inside" Not at all. Most maybe, but since I wrote GUIs without a CLI I can say for sure that not all have them.
        lukan 2y ago
        I mean, every web GUI, which are now probably the majority of GUIs do not have a CLI anymore..

devjab 2y ago

I used to sort of like the Azure GUI (yes I’m a total psychopath), but then they changed it 9 billion times and now I just use the CLI. It’s frankly often experiences like this which drives me back to the cli. I like Gitkraken, but the it does an update and forgets my SSO or it doesn’t support a specific thing I need to do and then I’m using their console. I’m not really religious about anything, but I often end up going back to the CLI for a lot of things because it’s just less of an annoyance.

the_duke 2y ago

Can you give some examples? Which GUIs are you using?

dakiol 2y ago
I have used git extensively in the terminal. But nowadays I see myself more and more relying on GUIs like the ones integrated in Intellij IDE, Source Tree, etc. Another example could be qemu and the GUIs that we have nowadays. One final example would be simply drag and dropping files via Finder instead of using cp/mv