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For me it's self evident the argument is false by way of contradiction. Assume it's true. There exists a consciousness nerve cell, with a nucleus and such as a
by amy-petrik-214 2y ago
For me it's self evident the argument is false by way of contradiction. Assume it's true. There exists a consciousness nerve cell, with a nucleus and such as all nerve cells have, somewhere in the mind. As far as how the brain is "built" during the embryonic stage, you'd expect that cell to have a typical "home" in the brain or brainstem somewhere.
Then that "home" would be a known spot where if a stroke occurs, or other damage, at once eliminates forever that persons consciousness. But not so common core area such as this has ever been found, suggesting our assumption in the first place, that such a cell exists, is false.
Now that's one extreme, the all commanding cell. It's also self-evident that cells aren't some 'set of equals' commune. Of course there are master cells that activate other cells in certain conditions. This is seen even in our deep learning nets where you may have a "I see a cat" neuron and "I see a dog" neuron that triggers the response program for those things.
That's all to say, reality is a place in between
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- cushpush 2y agoHmm, you bring up an interesting point. Contradiction and proof by it are very powerful (proof by induction or contradiction being the two from classical logic). IF we consider that fully centralized (100% centralized) or fully decentralized (evenly spread, even density) are the extremes then maybe we have an idea, and maybe the real terrain is somewhere in the middle, but now we're talking spring mechanics of decision making and rarefaction and compression of decisions. Maybe something closer to how expressivity behaves.
- bubblyworld 2y agoWhat are you actually arguing against here? The article is about a variety of different phenomenon, some of which can be interpreted as a neuronal "dictatorship" (e.g. escape actions) and some of which can't (e.g. monkey arm movement). I don't think you can characterise something as complex as a mind with a simple argument by contradiction. (by the way, you might be interested in Oliver Sack's popsci book "the man who mistook his wife for a hat". A lot of it is about temporal lobe injuries, which are well known to cause consciousness-related disorders)