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For instance, Paul Graham personally hellbanned Maciej Ceglowski for calling Sebastian Marshall a "prolix douchebag". No I didn't. If I had, his comments afte

by pg 14y ago

For instance, Paul Graham personally hellbanned Maciej Ceglowski for calling Sebastian Marshall a "prolix douchebag". No I didn't. If I had, his comments after that would be dead. Edit: tptacek points out that he was briefly banned, though not long enough to cause any of his comments to be killed.

tptacek 14y ago
Thanks for correcting that. He did have comments killed; that's how we noticed he was hellbanned. And, like many reasonable people would do, once he found out he'd been hellbanned, he left the site, which is my point: his leaving was more our loss than his. Mistakes happen. I'm just pointing this out as evidence that this particular form of site policing is error prone. I'm definitely not inclined to rant about the unfairness of it all, because I do not believe I could do a better job running a site like this.
saurik 14y ago
<assuming notion="your edit is in regards to tptacek's response">No, what tptacek actually said was: "he did have comments killed; that's how we noticed he was hellbanned".</assuming> I personally remember seeing a few that were dead after the "prolix douchebag" one when I was looking into it. (I am known in my friend circle to maintain a database of users that are hell-banned; so, when Maciej, a long-friend-of-a-close-friend, seemed to be hit, I was notified almost immediately.) I also remember those comments mysteriously being un-killed when his account became un-banned. (So, if you are using the current status, that isn't accurate anymore; or, if you are relying on us to not have seen the temporary status, we did.)
- tptacek 14y ago
  His edit is not replying to that comment.
- pg 14y ago
  Yeah, that must have been it. When I unban someone who was only recently banned, I often unkill the stuff that got killed while they were banned.
kmfrk 14y ago
@pinboard This is kind of odd. Paul Graham straight-up lying about how he hellbanned me on his site: http://bit.ly/L6uABO Oh the nerd drama! https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/213106763464048642 https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/213106763464048642
- tptacek 14y ago
  He was pretty irritated by what happened. I don't blame him.

by pg 14y ago

tptacek 14y ago

Thanks for correcting that. He did have comments killed; that's how we noticed he was hellbanned. And, like many reasonable people would do, once he found out he'd been hellbanned, he left the site, which is my point: his leaving was more our loss than his. Mistakes happen. I'm just pointing this out as evidence that this particular form of site policing is error prone. I'm definitely not inclined to rant about the unfairness of it all, because I do not believe I could do a better job running a site like this.

saurik 14y ago

<assuming notion="your edit is in regards to tptacek's response">No, what tptacek actually said was: "he did have comments killed; that's how we noticed he was hellbanned".</assuming> I personally remember seeing a few that were dead after the "prolix douchebag" one when I was looking into it. (I am known in my friend circle to maintain a database of users that are hell-banned; so, when Maciej, a long-friend-of-a-close-friend, seemed to be hit, I was notified almost immediately.) I also remember those comments mysteriously being un-killed when his account became un-banned. (So, if you are using the current status, that isn't accurate anymore; or, if you are relying on us to not have seen the temporary status, we did.)

tptacek 14y ago
His edit is not replying to that comment.
pg 14y ago
Yeah, that must have been it. When I unban someone who was only recently banned, I often unkill the stuff that got killed while they were banned.

kmfrk 14y ago

@pinboard This is kind of odd. Paul Graham straight-up lying about how he hellbanned me on his site: http://bit.ly/L6uABO Oh the nerd drama! https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/213106763464048642 https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/213106763464048642

tptacek 14y ago
He was pretty irritated by what happened. I don't blame him.