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For what is worth, I think Meta is lying about it, or at least playing the victim card too strongly. > They’re demanding that Meta provide free full services w

For what is worth, I think Meta is lying about it, or at least playing the victim card too strongly. > They’re demanding that Meta provide free full services without personalized ads or a monthly fee for users. Meta is being sued because their paid plan is not honest - they are currently asking for 10€/month which is disproportionate - for comparison, a Business Standard Google Workspace account with 2Tb and Gemini costs 11€. From [1], "EU law requires that consent is the genuine free will of the user. Contrary to this law, Meta charges a 'privacy fee' of up to €250 per year if anyone dares to exercise their fundamental right to data protection". [1] https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-gdpr-complaint-against-meta-over-pay-or-okay https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-gdpr-complaint-against-meta-ov...

t1hrowaway 2y ago
The price looks reasonable to me after looking at the average revenue per user. https://www.statista.com/statistics/234056/facebooks-average-advertising-revenue-per-user/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/234056/facebooks-average...
- ameister14 2y ago
  I don't think reasonable prices are based on what the potential maximum profit per user is. Normally it's based on the expense per user plus a percentage for profit.
  - Nasrudith 2y ago
    Your mistake is assuming that "reasonable" exists as something concretely defined. Reasonable is an opinion.
    - ameister14 2y ago
      Reasonable is definitely an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's random. In legal and economic contexts, reasonable profits are a thing that is routinely calculated. Where industries are more regulated, 'reasonable' profits are often bound by statutory guidelines. In more competitive markets, prices are not fixed in the same way but you can take a look at industry standards to ascertain what might be reasonable.
fallingknife 2y ago
That is perfectly honest. If it were 10x that it would still be honest. Pay the price or don't use the service. Nobody owes you anything.
- account42 2y ago
  And we don't owe Facebook anything. Play by the rules or GTFO.

t1hrowaway 2y ago

The price looks reasonable to me after looking at the average revenue per user. https://www.statista.com/statistics/234056/facebooks-average-advertising-revenue-per-user/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/234056/facebooks-average...

ameister14 2y ago
I don't think reasonable prices are based on what the potential maximum profit per user is. Normally it's based on the expense per user plus a percentage for profit.
- Nasrudith 2y ago
  Your mistake is assuming that "reasonable" exists as something concretely defined. Reasonable is an opinion.
  - ameister14 2y ago
    Reasonable is definitely an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's random. In legal and economic contexts, reasonable profits are a thing that is routinely calculated. Where industries are more regulated, 'reasonable' profits are often bound by statutory guidelines. In more competitive markets, prices are not fixed in the same way but you can take a look at industry standards to ascertain what might be reasonable.

fallingknife 2y ago

That is perfectly honest. If it were 10x that it would still be honest. Pay the price or don't use the service. Nobody owes you anything.

account42 2y ago
And we don't owe Facebook anything. Play by the rules or GTFO.