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I guess you could say it technically is a conspiracy. But it's a well documented and publicised one. https://www.oscars.org/awards/representation-and-inclusion

I guess you could say it technically is a conspiracy. But it's a well documented and publicised one. https://www.oscars.org/awards/representation-and-inclusion-standards https://www.oscars.org/awards/representation-and-inclusion-s... > And what if I told you that the free market is the most powerful cultural force in the US, and TV/film studios produce content in ways they think will make the most money? These DEI products fail all the time. The most recent Star Wars series is a great example. These failures are also well documented in every TV show/movie where the critics score and the audience score are miles apart on rotten tomatoes.

mpalmer 2y ago
You really thought that link was a smoking gun, didn't you. Have you read this thing? Do you understand how hard it is NOT to check two of these four boxes? Basically all of your film's department heads have to be white straight men, you have to fail to hire just 6(!) women/POC/etc in other significant jobs, and the studio's executives all belong to over-represented groups. As in, they are whiter and straighter than THE COUNTRY. That you insist on seeing evil and bad faith in efforts to make our culture more representative of our actual population is very depressing to me.
- AmericanChopper 2y ago
  It dictates choice between major casting requirements, or major storyline requirements. I’m not sure why you’ve only mentioned the crew requirements, which I also think are bad, but are irrelevant to this thread. Can I take it you’re admitting this is a conspiracy implemented by a small group of political activist elites, but that you just want to downplay its impact a bit?
  - mpalmer 2y ago
    First, I'm afraid you are very confused about your own link. My point was that the things I mentioned are sufficient on their own to qualify a movie for the Best Picture category. Pick any TWO of these four: - "Diverse" casting (aka roughly in line with US pop demographics and even then, STILL favoring white men) OR storyline centered on non-white OR non-male OR non-heterosexual theme - "Diverse" leadership (Simply have two dept heads that aren't white, straight, male, AND fully-abled) - Opportunities for training and advancement for people who are not white, straight, male AND fully-abled - Studio has >1 senior executive OR consultant that has a significantly different background from the rich, white, straight, fully-abled men that ran Hollywood for the better part of a century. Just find two people! Second, the word "elites" perfectly describes the people who run the system people are trying to change. Elites don't want to change anything. Why would they?
mpalmer 2y ago
Now I'm not sure you can tell apart bad writing from diverse casting. Both are having a moment right now, but that's not really an excuse to confuse them.

mpalmer 2y ago

You really thought that link was a smoking gun, didn't you. Have you read this thing? Do you understand how hard it is NOT to check two of these four boxes? Basically all of your film's department heads have to be white straight men, you have to fail to hire just 6(!) women/POC/etc in other significant jobs, and the studio's executives all belong to over-represented groups. As in, they are whiter and straighter than THE COUNTRY. That you insist on seeing evil and bad faith in efforts to make our culture more representative of our actual population is very depressing to me.

AmericanChopper 2y ago
It dictates choice between major casting requirements, or major storyline requirements. I’m not sure why you’ve only mentioned the crew requirements, which I also think are bad, but are irrelevant to this thread. Can I take it you’re admitting this is a conspiracy implemented by a small group of political activist elites, but that you just want to downplay its impact a bit?
- mpalmer 2y ago
  First, I'm afraid you are very confused about your own link. My point was that the things I mentioned are sufficient on their own to qualify a movie for the Best Picture category. Pick any TWO of these four: - "Diverse" casting (aka roughly in line with US pop demographics and even then, STILL favoring white men) OR storyline centered on non-white OR non-male OR non-heterosexual theme - "Diverse" leadership (Simply have two dept heads that aren't white, straight, male, AND fully-abled) - Opportunities for training and advancement for people who are not white, straight, male AND fully-abled - Studio has >1 senior executive OR consultant that has a significantly different background from the rich, white, straight, fully-abled men that ran Hollywood for the better part of a century. Just find two people! Second, the word "elites" perfectly describes the people who run the system people are trying to change. Elites don't want to change anything. Why would they?

mpalmer 2y ago

Now I'm not sure you can tell apart bad writing from diverse casting. Both are having a moment right now, but that's not really an excuse to confuse them.