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Are you just counting on others being too exhausted to bring yet another moot argument to its predetermined conclusion? I'll finish it to save everyone some ti

Are you just counting on others being too exhausted to bring yet another moot argument to its predetermined conclusion? I'll finish it to save everyone some time: A: how much of gdp is facilitated through the search abilities of meta and google, though? B: It doesn't matter. A: Why not? B: There will be someone else who is willing to play by the local rules fulfilling the same function in their place, just like in many countries around the world already.

threeseed 2y ago
> There will be someone else who is willing to play by the local rules Building a competitive search engine or AI model requires VC investment. It's simply too expensive to do otherwise. VC investment requires a vibrant startup ecosystem, well crafted regulations and a risk-tolerant culture.
- chmod775 2y ago
  > Building a competitive search engine [..] requires VC investment. > VC investment requires a vibrant startup ecosystem, well crafted regulations and a risk-tolerant culture. Yandex, Baidu, and many other lesser-known local-only search engines exist. There's also nothing stopping an already existing technology company from entering search. The statement is incorrect. Meanwhile common sense tells us that obviously there's going to be investment into domestic search engines if Google voluntarily throws in the towel. Europe is a huge place and there's a lot of money to be made, even if it's merely with context-based advertising and no individual tracking. > Building a competitive [..] AI model requires VC investment [..] and a risk-tolerant culture. Training a large model anyways, since nobody has really figured out how to recoup that investment yet. Why are you trying to derail this from talking about search though?
- GreenWatermelon 2y ago
  lol. Kagi exists and kicks the ever-loving shit of the garbage bin that is google search. So no, ot doesn't require VC cash to build something useful for people.
  - jjtheblunt 2y ago
    Kagi is wonderful: agreed!
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jjtheblunt 2y ago
> Are you just counting on others being too exhausted to bring yet another moot argument to its predetermined conclusion? Umm, nope. I’m conjecturing that there could be an enabling aspect of huge scale, and that some smaller economies may fall below the threshold. Personally i hope what you wrote works.

threeseed 2y ago

> There will be someone else who is willing to play by the local rules Building a competitive search engine or AI model requires VC investment. It's simply too expensive to do otherwise. VC investment requires a vibrant startup ecosystem, well crafted regulations and a risk-tolerant culture.

chmod775 2y ago
> Building a competitive search engine [..] requires VC investment. > VC investment requires a vibrant startup ecosystem, well crafted regulations and a risk-tolerant culture. Yandex, Baidu, and many other lesser-known local-only search engines exist. There's also nothing stopping an already existing technology company from entering search. The statement is incorrect. Meanwhile common sense tells us that obviously there's going to be investment into domestic search engines if Google voluntarily throws in the towel. Europe is a huge place and there's a lot of money to be made, even if it's merely with context-based advertising and no individual tracking. > Building a competitive [..] AI model requires VC investment [..] and a risk-tolerant culture. Training a large model anyways, since nobody has really figured out how to recoup that investment yet. Why are you trying to derail this from talking about search though?
GreenWatermelon 2y ago
lol. Kagi exists and kicks the ever-loving shit of the garbage bin that is google search. So no, ot doesn't require VC cash to build something useful for people.
- jjtheblunt 2y ago
  Kagi is wonderful: agreed!
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jjtheblunt 2y ago

> Are you just counting on others being too exhausted to bring yet another moot argument to its predetermined conclusion? Umm, nope. I’m conjecturing that there could be an enabling aspect of huge scale, and that some smaller economies may fall below the threshold. Personally i hope what you wrote works.