This seems like it's aiming at something, but missing. My take as an engineer (not a PE, but have the degree) is that engineering mindset is quite a bit differ

This seems like it's aiming at something, but missing. My take as an engineer (not a PE, but have the degree) is that engineering mindset is quite a bit different than computer science mindset, which is quite a bit different than technician mindset. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. Engineering is pragmatically applying science. Computer science has more of a theoretical bent to it - less pragmatic. Technicians tend to jump in and get stuff done. Especially for major work, I'll do paper designs and models. The engineers tend to get it, but the computer scientists tend to argue about optimal or theoretical cases, while the technicians are already banging something out that may or may not solve the problem. More recently (past 5-10 years), I've seen a notable lack of understanding from new programmers about how to do a design. I'm currently watching a sibling team code themselves into a corner due to lack of adequate design. They'll figure it out in a few months, but they're "making progress" now and have no time to waste.