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You bothered to go to wikipedia to discredit the messenger when you couldn't disprove the fact that monuments to fallen Soviet soldiers are destroyed in Ukraine

You bothered to go to wikipedia to discredit the messenger when you couldn't disprove the fact that monuments to fallen Soviet soldiers are destroyed in Ukraine, but chose to stop citing wiki too soon. Doesn't seem honest to me. Here is the next paragraph you ignored: In 2021 Shariy apologized "for his past from 11 years ago" and claimed his views had been changed since then.[84] "And about gays. I am a simple guy from Karavaevka. My childhood passed in the Soviet Union. I have never seen those "gays" ...I was certain that they would attack me with obscene offers... but I must say that I have never had a problem with a gay person in my life."

racional 2y ago
The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier. What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information. You couldn't disprove the fact that ... I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not relevant to the current situation.
- protomolecule 2y ago
  >it's simply not relevant to the current situation Just like your comments to this thread.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - racional 2y ago
    Well, of course. It was yet another "Bandera, Bandera" thread. So nothing emerging from it would have relevance to anything. As you knew when you started it.
    - protomolecule 2y ago
      Great, I'm glad you think that. Next time please just pass by.
      - racional 2y ago
        Perhaps you should consider doing the same, at moments when all you can think of offering in response to an evident Russian war crime (demolishing memorials on territory is illegally occupying) is to cite the completely non-analogous situation of the Ukrainians demolishing memorials (for whatever reason) on their own territory. It's just such an obviously insipid and vacuous comparison. It's difficult to see why you went down this track, other than as an excuse to thrown down more of your favorite scare imagery and talking points.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        "for whatever reason" I love how you are skirting the topic of the ideology of post-2014 Ukraine.
        racional 2y ago
        And rightly so -- as far as the current conflict is concerned, it's a red herring.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        And yet you instead of honestly saying 'yes, post-2014 Ukraine glorifies Nazi collaborators, but it doesn't matter to me' go to the great lengths to deny it or weasel around.
        racional 2y ago
        Certain people in Ukraine valorize and whitewash that history. But "Ukraine" as a country does not. And none of this stupidity is any way relevant to the current (very much Nazi-like) invasion by Russia that you are continually apologizing for. Whose true causes you know perfectly well, and are continually attempting to distract attention away from with finger-pointing tactics such as these. That is the cardinal error you are making here.

racional 2y ago

The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier. What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information. You couldn't disprove the fact that ... I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not relevant to the current situation.

protomolecule 2y ago
>it's simply not relevant to the current situation Just like your comments to this thread.
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- racional 2y ago
  Well, of course. It was yet another "Bandera, Bandera" thread. So nothing emerging from it would have relevance to anything. As you knew when you started it.
  - protomolecule 2y ago
    Great, I'm glad you think that. Next time please just pass by.
    - racional 2y ago
      Perhaps you should consider doing the same, at moments when all you can think of offering in response to an evident Russian war crime (demolishing memorials on territory is illegally occupying) is to cite the completely non-analogous situation of the Ukrainians demolishing memorials (for whatever reason) on their own territory. It's just such an obviously insipid and vacuous comparison. It's difficult to see why you went down this track, other than as an excuse to thrown down more of your favorite scare imagery and talking points.
      - protomolecule 2y ago
        "for whatever reason" I love how you are skirting the topic of the ideology of post-2014 Ukraine.
        racional 2y ago
        And rightly so -- as far as the current conflict is concerned, it's a red herring.
        protomolecule 2y ago
        And yet you instead of honestly saying 'yes, post-2014 Ukraine glorifies Nazi collaborators, but it doesn't matter to me' go to the great lengths to deny it or weasel around.
        racional 2y ago
        Certain people in Ukraine valorize and whitewash that history. But "Ukraine" as a country does not. And none of this stupidity is any way relevant to the current (very much Nazi-like) invasion by Russia that you are continually apologizing for. Whose true causes you know perfectly well, and are continually attempting to distract attention away from with finger-pointing tactics such as these. That is the cardinal error you are making here.