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DARPA Brings Next-Gen US Microelectronics Manufacturing Closer to Reality

67 points by doener 2y ago

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zitterbewegung 2y ago
This is great I rather have my taxes being spent for this than nearly everything else. Even if it pans out to not work supporting fundamental research like this is really best for DARPA due to its mission.
- tylerflick 2y ago
  Agreed. DARPA is one of the few government agencies I have faith in to do the most with their budget.
wildzzz 2y ago
Microelectronics in the defense industry is such an outdated term. It means anything from 5400 series chips from the 1970s up to a brand new $100k Xilinx Vortex UltraScale+.
- 15155 2y ago
  Nobody pays $100k for any UltraScale+ chip regardless of what you may see on DigiKey, btw - that's the "fuck you" price, every US+ chip today is obtainable new for under $10k.
  - wildzzz 2y ago
    You can get pretty close to buying space-rated versions.
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transpute 2y ago
DARPA ERI also facilitates chiplet interconnect and open EDA toolchains, https://theopenroadproject.org https://theopenroadproject.org & https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30538809 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30538809 ERI 2023 videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XX_QXopgo&list=PL6wMum5UsYvaychdWCfbmaGSqQ7YqQE4d&pp=iAQB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XX_QXopgo&list=PL6wMum5UsY...
- alephnerd 2y ago
  OpenRoad is part of the program mentioned in the DARPA article. It's part of the larger chiplet initiative that DARPA has been driving since 2013 after what became the Super Micro scandal started in 2008-2011 [0][1]. Most US-China decoupling news and nearshoring you hear about now was stuff we started dealing with 10-20 years ago. I've yelled myself hoarse on HN evangelizing that fact. Obama's "Look East" policy didn't start in a vacuum. [0] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-01/dangerous-fakes https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-01/dangerous... [1] - https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/us-military-fake-microchips-china/352255/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/us-mi...
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67 points by doener 2y ago

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This is great I rather have my taxes being spent for this than nearly everything else. Even if it pans out to not work supporting fundamental research like this is really best for DARPA due to its mission.

tylerflick 2y ago
Agreed. DARPA is one of the few government agencies I have faith in to do the most with their budget.

wildzzz 2y ago

Microelectronics in the defense industry is such an outdated term. It means anything from 5400 series chips from the 1970s up to a brand new $100k Xilinx Vortex UltraScale+.

15155 2y ago
Nobody pays $100k for any UltraScale+ chip regardless of what you may see on DigiKey, btw - that's the "fuck you" price, every US+ chip today is obtainable new for under $10k.
- wildzzz 2y ago
  You can get pretty close to buying space-rated versions.

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transpute 2y ago

DARPA ERI also facilitates chiplet interconnect and open EDA toolchains, https://theopenroadproject.org https://theopenroadproject.org & https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30538809 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30538809 ERI 2023 videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XX_QXopgo&list=PL6wMum5UsYvaychdWCfbmaGSqQ7YqQE4d&pp=iAQB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XX_QXopgo&list=PL6wMum5UsY...

alephnerd 2y ago
OpenRoad is part of the program mentioned in the DARPA article. It's part of the larger chiplet initiative that DARPA has been driving since 2013 after what became the Super Micro scandal started in 2008-2011 [0][1]. Most US-China decoupling news and nearshoring you hear about now was stuff we started dealing with 10-20 years ago. I've yelled myself hoarse on HN evangelizing that fact. Obama's "Look East" policy didn't start in a vacuum. [0] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-01/dangerous-fakes https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-10-01/dangerous... [1] - https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/us-military-fake-microchips-china/352255/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/us-mi...
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