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Sigh... they aren't "computers". It really sucks that we've lost that word. What do people say now if they specifically mean a general-purpose computing machine
by globular-toast 2y ago
Sigh... they aren't "computers". It really sucks that we've lost that word. What do people say now if they specifically mean a general-purpose computing machine?
Cars also depend almost entirely on the road infrastructure. The automakers don't support that. People need to realise if they want interoperability they need to choose open standards that their community can maintain. This isn't just a problem with cars.
- Zambyte 2y ago... In what sense are they not "computers"? > What do people say now if they specifically mean a general-purpose computing machine? "General-purpose computer" seems fine to me.
- jwsteigerwalt 2y agoCan you play Doom on it?
- Zambyte 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mmiPT2avrY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mmiPT2avrY Newer cars are probably less likely due to how arbitrarily locked down they are, rather than being incapable. The manufacturer could run DOOM on their car that you bought, but you probably can't.
- pixl97 2y agoQuite often yes, if you can get past any bios security locks.
- mavhc 2y agoYes, because it runs in a browser https://uacorp.space/ https://uacorp.space/
- tempfile 2y agoI don't think I understand your objection. Would you prefer it if they said "cars have computers"?
- globular-toast 2y agoEven then it's totally irrelevant to the point being made. The fact they happen to be made with computers with full operating systems etc. is curious but irrelevant here. People don't use cars as computers, but they may use them as "devices" to some extent. A computer is something on which you can install new software, including your own. Cars are not that. It's like calling a window a door. Yes, they are holes in walls that can be used for ingress or egress, but they completely different expected use cases and designs. One could make the point that cars contain electronics with firmware which is so hopelessly broken that it needs constant updates. But the point in the article is even further from that and just that they are expected to interoperate with other things like remote services etc. But like I said, the word is lost and people call iPhones computers too. I wish I hadn't written it now because it wasn't really my main point...
- Zambyte 2y agoIs there a reason to make a distinction between "computers" and "devices that happen to have computers" besides convincing people they should accept not being able to compute on their computer?